From Relay, this is Upgrade, episode 5601 for April 28th, 2025.

Today's show is brought to you by FitBod and Vitally.

My name is Mike Hurley.

I'm joined by Jason Snell.

Hi, Jason Snell.

From my garage.

This is Jason Snell brought to you this week by T.

Like every week.

I would say, I just wanted to start off the show by saying,

thank you for all the nice messages,

people who wrote and to tell me that they're happy that I'm back.

I just thought it was very sweet. But we don't have time for all that. I have a snow talk question for you. And it comes

from Patel who wants to know. Have either of you used a Waymo before? If you haven't, would you be

interested in it? Um, Waymo for those who don't know, is a self-driving taxi, and they are everywhere in San Francisco.

I'll tell you that.

In Phoenix, too, right?

Or is that somebody else?

No, no, I think they are in Phoenix, too.

My mom lives so far outside their range that it's not an option there.

And, you know, I don't live in San Francisco.

And so when I drive in San Francisco, we just went to a Giants game on Saturday.

And, you know, you can't, you can't go through San Francisco without seeing a Waymo.

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