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Page 94: The Private Eye Podcast

56: US Election Fake News Special

Page 94: The Private Eye Podcast

Page 94: The Private Eye Podcast

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4.61.6K Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2020

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Episode 56. In a one-off departure from our usual format, Ian Hislop interviews James Alefantis - the Washington restaurateur whose pizza restaurant has been swept up in multiple conspiracy theories - first Pizzagate and now QAnon.

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Page 94, the Private Eye Podcast.

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Hello and welcome to page 94.

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My name is Andrew Hunter Murray and this is a very different kind of episode from the usual one.

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This is going to be a U.S US election special on fake news. This election a

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staggering number of people have been reading about and even more worryingly

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believing a conspiracy theory called QAnon which in a nutshell alleges that there is a

0:26.4

ring of devil worshiping pedophiles running the US government business and pretty much

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everything else it grew in part out of a very similar conspiracy

0:35.6

theory which took root during the last election. This was the so-called Pizza Gate Conspiracy

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Theory, which alleged that a particular pizza restaurant in downtown Washington, called Comet ping-pong, was host to a ring of pedophile politicians who were using the restaurant to abduct, abuse and sell children.

0:55.0

Now, years after it first started, Pizza Gate has re-emerged as one of the main pillars of

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QAnon, and despite being being very obviously untrue it has had serious real consequences offline too

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Earlier this year as part of a TV documentary about fake news the I's editor Ian Hislop went to America to comic ping pong to interview the owner, a man called James Alefantis.

1:18.0

As a supporter of the Democrats, before the last election, Aleantis had exchanged some emails with

1:23.9

John Pedesta one of Hillary Clinton senior aides about the idea of cooking for

1:28.5

some fundraisers but when Pedesta's emails were leaked online, conspiracy theorists started drawing much darker conclusions about their correspondence.

1:37.0

Only a small portion of Ian's original interview with Mr. Alefantis actually aired on the original documentary, so for this

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edition of page 94 we are giving you the whole thing. First of all I spoke briefly

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to Ian about what he found when he went to Washington to the restaurant.

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Here's Ian. The experience was very surreal. I'd read a great deal

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about Pizza Gate. I'd read some of the stuff online. I'd read accounts of it. I'd read

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debunking of it, which never seems to do much good and then suddenly there I was in a you know

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