This is The Illusionist, in which I, Helen Zoltzman, wish you a joyous and loving Pride

Month.

And to celebrate today, I'm playing two of The Illusionist episodes that have stuck

with me the most during the show's existence.

The first one is called Joyance.

It came about a couple of years ago thanks to you, listeners, who talked about your particular

experiences in your trans bodies, dealing with the available vocabulary for sex and the

associated body parts.

As a note, the episode contains language pertaining to sex and the associated body parts.

After this, there'll be a short piece about a monumental moment in time, but right now,

here is Joyance.

Hello, my name is Lee.

I'm a gender queer trans masculine gay guy.

It's time for me to talk to Helen Zoltzman about my genitals.

So there's actually a lot of different contexts in which genitals come up and there's

different language for each of them.

For me, as someone who was a scientific know of birth, as of a vagina, as a uterus, but

mostly passes as male, there's a lot of different things that go into what I'm choosing to call

my genitals.

I sometimes refer to my genitalia as anachronistic, which seems to fit perfectly.

I have a friend who refers to my genitalia as the factory installed equipment.

My name is Matty and I am both transgender and asexual.

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