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The Realignment

559 | Saagar Enjeti: What's Next for America and Iran?

The Realignment

The Realignment

Technology, News Commentary, National Security, Marshall Kosloff, International Relations, News, Public Policy, Economics, Politics, Saager Enjeti, U.s. Politics, Policy

4.82.5K Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Back from paternity leave, Saagar Enjeti returns to The Realignment. Marshall and Saagar discuss the aftermath of U.S.-Israeli airstrikes on Iran's nuclear program, how the operation compares to previous interventions, why the non-interventionist MAGA faction lost to interventionists, why alternative media's policy influence relative to its popularity was overstated, and the future of nuclear non-proliferation.

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0:00.0

Marshall and Sagar here. Welcome back to the realignment. This is a big episode because a lot of folks

0:07.6

been writing in, asking for us to do a real deep dive on everything with the Iran, the United States,

0:14.3

and of course Israel, but they also wanted the broader perspective that you and I specialize in.

0:18.3

This is also the realignment's return to YouTube, me coming back

0:23.0

from my extended paternity leave from posting on the platform, but also, Sager, you are recently

0:27.4

back from paternity leave, so at some point we'll have to do a culture-only dad's episode

0:33.9

for the two of us now that we are fathers. I like it.

0:38.1

Yeah, but we are going to go into the things that we do not like that being international

0:42.1

conflict.

0:43.0

So I was pretty together together this show.

0:47.1

I wanted to ask you a first question, which is, what does this situation feel like?

0:52.5

I've got five different examples that listeners may or may not be aware of and can really

0:57.4

ground our thoughts.

0:58.5

So number one, 1981, Israel launches airstrikes on Iraq's nuclear reactor during the Iran-Iraq

1:06.4

war.

1:07.4

Two, 1991, Desert Storm.

1:10.7

Three, the Desert Fox operation where the U.S. struck the remnants of the Iraqi weapons programs

1:18.8

because they were violating the post-desert war sanctions policy.

1:22.8

Four, 2003, we invade Iraq.

1:25.1

Five, we intervene in the Libyan Civil War. So maybe this is like

1:30.8

none of those situations, but to situate listeners, how should they think about these examples?

1:35.5

See, I'm having a really tough time because we have the retrospective and we're just living

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