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558 - Is Brandy America's First Native Spirit? with Rob Bourdon of Copper and Kings

Bourbon Pursuit

Bourbon Pursuit

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4.8925 Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2026

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

Is American Brandy finally ready to step out of bourbon's shadow? Today, we’re joined by Rob Bourdon, the new owner of Copper & Kings, to discuss his vision for revitalizing one of Louisville’s most creative distilleries. I've had the great pleasure of knowing Rob for years because he was part of Tennesee Distilling Group and led a lot of their new fill and barrel contracts. Rob shares his past where was professional hockey player but we quickly pivot to talking about why brandy. When I heard he was buying Copper & Kings I was a bit shocked but Rob puts a great spin on it to see the opportunity in brandy versus the crowded bourbon market. But don't get me wrong, there's still a lot of really great brandy, bourbon, and tequila plays here. So if you're coming to Louisville and need a break from the bourbon, go check out Copper & Kings to see what he's got going on over there and pick one up on your shelf when you need to change things up. Show Notes: Challenges and developments in the Tennessee distilling industry Rob’s vision for Copper and Kings and the significance of American brandy Discussion of innovative products and unique distillation approaches Tasting notes featuring their apple brandy and other specialties Importance of educating consumers about brandy Plans for community engagement and revitalizing distillery events Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You know, we like people leaving with smiles in their face.

0:03.1

You know, we sell happiness in a bottle.

0:05.6

You know, it's a lot of fun to be able to educate and bring people to have an experience that, you know,

0:11.9

they just can't have really anywhere else.

0:13.6

And that's the cool part about Copper and Kings. This is Bourbon Pursuit, the official podcast of Bourbon, bringing to you the best in news, reviews, and interviews, with people making the bourbon whiskey industry happen, and I'm one of your

0:38.0

hosts, Kenny Coleman. So do you think American brandy is finally ready to step out of bourbon

0:43.2

shadow? Well, today, we're joined by Rob Burdow. He is the new owner of Copper and Kings, and we're

0:49.6

going to discuss his vision for revitalizing one of Louisville's most creative distilleries.

0:58.3

Now, I've had the great pleasure of knowing Rob for a few years because he was a part of Tennessee Distilling Group, and we talk about that here on the show.

1:01.0

And he led a lot of their new fill and barrel contracts, but Rob shares his pass and

1:05.8

where he was actually a professional hockey player at one point, but we quickly pivot and then talking about why Brandy

1:12.0

is going to be what he thinks is really America's native original spirit. But when I heard he was

1:17.7

buying Copper and Kings, honestly, I thought he was crazy. I was a bit shocked. But Rob,

1:22.6

he has a great spin on it and he sees an opportunity of Brandy versus the crowded market that we see in bourbon

1:28.7

today. But don't get me wrong, there's still a lot of reality and getting really great benefits

1:33.7

that you see with brandy, but with bourbon and tequila, that's all playing there at Copper and Kings

1:39.0

as well. So if you are coming to Louisville and you need a break from the bourbon, well, go and

1:43.8

check out Copper and Kings to see what he's got cooking over there.

1:46.6

And you can pick up also a bottle on your shelf if you ever need to change things up.

1:50.6

But with that, cheers everybody.

1:52.7

And now here's Fred Minnick with Above the Char.

1:56.2

I'm Fred Minnick, and this is Above the Char.

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