Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile.

This is Kathy Canning Mello, former FBI profiler and retired FBI agent.

And here with me is my dear friend and colleague.

Hi, it's Jim Clementi, retired FBI agent and profiler and former New York City

prosecutor, writer, producer of Criminal Minds, and Bluebeard on Audible.

And Kathy and I did FBI Profilers, criminal archives on Audible together.

And we delve into some of the most amazing cases that we were able to work together while we're in the behavioral analysis unit.

And hopefully people are coming on to identify that I, D-E-N-T-I-F-I, the app soon,

where you can interact with us and we can do lives and Q&A's and things like that.

So that's coming soon.

So let's jump into this latest, I mean, just horrific, horrific episode.

Yeah, it is. Maybe we should actually caution our readers that this is some really dark, depraved and sadistic material that we're going to be covering today. So just make

sure you're in the right kind of frame of mind to listen to it. And if you're not, maybe put it

aside and wait until a better time. But it's just really important, I think, for us, Jim,

to talk about it because it's gotten some recent attention by the media based on

an arrest that happened recently of two of the leaders of a subgroup of this group known as

764. Now, 764, that's a strange name for a group. Yeah.

What is it coming from?

I read an article that said it may be part of an area code in Texas where the group originated.

But there are obviously many subgroups to it, and it's been around for several years,

but it's just now getting some notoriety and

media attention, and I thought it would be a good sort of piggyback from last week's discussion

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