5533 Spanking Debate!
Freedomain with Stefan Molyneux
Stefan Molyneux
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🗓️ 13 June 2024
⏱️ 10 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, it's me, so I had a debate yesterday with someone, we call him Bob about peaceful parenting, |
| 0:05.7 | and Bob said that, he said, Steph, look, you're saying that the parent of the child have the same moral status or stature which most political |
| 0:17.3 | philosophy particularly libertarianism wouldn't accept because the child is of a lower status morally than the parent, right? |
| 0:27.9 | And the child can't sign their own contracts, can't live alone, can't act independently, |
| 0:32.1 | can't have their own control of currency and so on, |
| 0:35.2 | like when they're very little. |
| 0:36.7 | So the child is of a lower moral status to the parent and therefore saying that children should be treated like adults is invalid. |
| 0:46.0 | And I said, I don't believe that children should be treated like adults, |
| 0:50.0 | and my argument is not that children are lower moral status than adults or the same. |
| 0:59.0 | But the children are higher moral status, that they require higher moral considerations. |
| 1:04.0 | I said, look, I don't have to feed everyone, but I have to feed my own children. |
| 1:08.8 | They are deserving of higher moral considerations and greater, they have greater moral requirements and |
| 1:13.8 | should be treated with greater moral consideration so I don't accept that then |
| 1:18.8 | he said so are you saying that if I spank my child that you would approve of me or want me thrown in jail. |
| 1:28.0 | Now I was dealing with people who were not exactly pro status. |
| 1:32.6 | So I said, look, jail is a status concept, right? |
| 1:36.4 | So the question of whether you would deal with parents who hit their children with jail |
| 1:41.8 | is saying, well, the only answer to a moral problem that involves |
| 1:45.2 | coercion is jail and that's sort of a status concept right and he said well no there |
| 1:49.7 | would be jails in a free market society and so on and I said yeah that certainly could be the case |
| 1:54.1 | but it wouldn't apply in particular to a parent who hit his child and he's like well why not |
| 2:00.4 | I said if I come and hit you I go to jail. Why wouldn't I go to jail if I had a child? |
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