Marshall here, welcome back to The Realignment. Hey, everyone, welcome back to the show. For today's

episode, I'm rejoined by Steve Talley's to discuss the abundance agenda in the wake of Derek

and Ezra's book tour. We do these recurring episodes every few weeks. We've been taking off the

past few months, but now that there's been over two months since the release of the book, there is plenty to talk about.

In this conversation, we cover the future of the abundance agenda, lessons from the left

and rights engagement with abundance, and how abundance be wielded as a tool against a broken

status quo.

Lots of great stuff here.

It's always great to chat with Steve.

Definitely let us know if you have any thoughts. Huge thank you to the foundation for Brackett Innovation.

Supporting the work of this podcast. Steve Tallis, welcome back to the realignment.

Thank you for having me back on. It's been a while. Unfortunately, our sort of bi-weekly monthly

podcast got caught in my paternity leave disaster, but a lot has happened. How Gary you put

your reproduction over our conversation, Marshall, unacceptable. I appreciate the sort of rationalization,

but the honest truth is I'm just incredibly

disorganized and 20-something coping strategies don't actually fit there that I appreciate to your

point accommodating me.

So a lot has gone on in the past two months since we've spoken.

So we've got a lot of great stuff to talk about today.

Let's just kick off by getting your

post-abundance book tour reflections. The thing to note here, because the sort of pushback you

get from abundant skeptics is, hey, this is just a wonky thing. Do these ideas actually matter?

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