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Freedomain with Stefan Molyneux

5501 UPB and Babies!

Freedomain with Stefan Molyneux

Stefan Molyneux

Freedom, Politics, Objectivism, Freedomainradio, Anarchy, Democrat, Liberal, Republican, Libertarian, News & Politics, Joe-rogan, Objectivist, Atheism, Philosophy, Atheist, Conservative, Pacifism

4.72.4K Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Let's say a couple were to enter into some contract with a woman to maybe use the male sperm and the woman's eggs in order to get a baby, and the baby then, in a sense, would be contracted, maybe money would exchange.

Therefore, the baby is bought and paid for, and is this UPB? In other words, can a couple pay another woman to conceive and carry a child, and then the custody of the child would be transferred to the new couple, and is this UPB? Now, of course, there's no force that is being deployed in the contract, right? So everybody is voluntarily putting themselves in the contract. And the argument is, and I understand the perspective, and I obviously really respect the question, but the baby is not consenting. The baby is not consenting to the contract. Now, of course, I've made this case before, but it's been a long time ago. Is a contract valid if you can't consent at the time, but you do consent later?

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Transcript

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0:00.0

All right, good morning, everybody. Sorry for the slightly rough voice, but I have had a very persistent fellow, which I appreciate and admire,

0:07.1

who's asking about a surrogacy when it comes to children, and the idea being that, let's say, a couple were to enter into some contract with the woman,

0:24.0

to maybe use the male sperm and the woman's eggs in order to get a baby

0:27.3

and the baby then in a sense would be contracted

0:30.5

maybe the money would exchange

0:31.9

and therefore the baby is bought and paid for

0:35.5

and is this UPB? In other words, can a couple pay another woman to

0:45.1

conceive and carry a child and then the child's, the custody of the child's would be transferred

0:52.2

to the new couple and is this UPB.

0:58.2

Now, of course, there's no force that is being deployed in the contract, right?

1:05.5

So everybody is voluntarily putting themselves in the contract, and the argument is,

1:10.7

and I understand the perspective, and I obviously really respect the contract. And the argument is, and I understand the perspective,

1:12.2

and I obviously really respect the question,

1:14.4

but the baby is not consenting.

1:16.9

The baby is not consenting to the contract.

1:22.4

Now, of course, I've made this case before,

1:25.7

but it's been a long time ago.

1:31.4

Is a contract valid if you can't consent at the time, but you do consent later? And it's a more important question

1:40.3

that it sounds, and it's less abstract than it sounds. So I'll give you the reason why I first

1:46.7

created this argument and hopefully it will make some kind of sense. So this is sort of way back at

1:53.6

the dawn of free domain back when the appendix radio was in the title because I'd never learned from Radio Shack, which when Radio Shack was first,

2:04.5

as an electronic store, when it was first created, radio was a big deal.

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