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Okay, so the first item and follow-up is when we talked about final draft and the script notes podcast last week

We got a lot of feedback on that also directly from the two hosts of that podcast and

As it turns out, I definitely and perhaps also Casey misattributed to the two hosts statements, which were not theirs

In particular discussing their stance on software pricing after listening to the podcast

I was under the impression that they thought software if not should be free should definitely be much lower priced

And I cited an example on the podcast of them saying well apples operating system is free

That was not the host of the podcast that said that that was Joe Jarvis. He was the

Product manager from the final draft who was on the podcast now

I know people feel when they say they can't identify our voices as separate things

Is it really the podcast for the first time and you're you know 15 20 minutes into it you lose track of who's speaking I didn't lose track

So I think Casey said that in last show and I said that and Marco tried to correct us and none of us could remember for sure at the time

But Marco was right. I could

Yes, well you are you aren't all that insistent

I've said I thought that was them and Casey said yeah, I thought that was them too

And you said I thought it wasn't but none of us had the podcast in front of it and speaking of that

There is actually a transcript of this podcast which Marco will put in the show notes

That will give you a text version so you don't have to listen to the podcast

I know people sometimes don't want to listen to audio and scrub to the parts

You can just look at the text version which is much faster to read and find the discussion of this topic

So I apologize to both of those guys for making it sound like they thought all software should be free

And in fact John August sells some software off his own

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