Welcome to the Holy Post. In a video clip from a sermon, influential mega-church pastor Andy Stanley

said gay men and women who remain in the church, quote, have more faith than a lot of you."

End quote. The backlash has been swift, but are people completely misunderstanding his point?

And why do some Christians think shifting views on sexuality and gender are the greatest

threat to the church while others believe it's Christian nationalism and politics?

Who's right? And what does our views say about us? And a new article explains the rise of

spirit warriors, the independent Christian prophets on YouTube, mixing politics and spiritual warfare.

Where did they come from? And how much influence do they really have?

All of that plus we discover Caitlin Shest does not know what a delorean is.

A few reminders before we jump into the episode were continuing our experiment this week with

splitting the episode into two parts. So today you're getting the new segment,

and later this week we'll have our interview. Also for our Patreon supporters, there's a brand

new episode of Getting Schooled by Caitlin Shest out this week, which is all about the very

interesting biblical understanding of family and how it does not often fit with our popular American

view, including the view within the American church. So be sure to get that bonus content by

going to HolyPost.com and clicking the support us button. Of course, there's a bunch of other

bonus material there as well as the HolyPost book club, live streams and exclusive merchandise.

All right, here is episode 548.

Hey there, welcome back to the HolyPost podcast. I almost said, do you know what I almost said,

Sky? This is, I've never, I've never done this before. I almost, I went blank and almost said,

I'm Christian Taylor, because I think I'm so used to saying, and I'm here with Christian Taylor.

I almost introduced myself as Christian Taylor. That's weird. That's very weird. That's really,

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