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Michael and Us

#547 - Albanian Bacon (w/ Daniel Bessner and Derek Davison)

Michael and Us

Luke Savage and Will Sloan

Tv & Film

4.6668 Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2024

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

In Barry Levinson and David Mamet's WAG THE DOG (1997), a political spin-doctor teams with a movie producer to fake a war and save an incumbent president. You've heard of manufacturing consent, but to what extent can Hollywood and Washington manufacture reality? We're joined by Daniel Bessner and Derek Davison of the American Prestige podcast to discuss. Check out American Prestige - https://www.americanprestigepod.com/ Join us on Patreon for an extra episode every week - https://www.patreon.com/michaelandus

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0:00.0

Don't stop thinking about tomorrow.

0:04.3

Don't stop.

0:06.2

We can take a minute or two to get into character.

0:11.2

I always find that transition is...

0:13.4

I was born in character.

0:17.7

I take it.

0:18.7

The two of you have met my co-host, Will.

0:20.4

He seemed to be here before I got here,

0:22.2

so you guys have gotten acquainted. As of 30 seconds ago, yeah. We're all like long-time friends now.

0:27.8

It's great. You can hear that decades going back decades rapport, just starting right here.

0:34.5

I'm going to say this off the top because I don't know if this fits in anywhere, but I mean, we all, I think just watched Wag the dog. And it put me in mind to check

0:42.5

the list of movies that Bill Clinton watched in the White House, which is easily, you know,

0:46.5

I always, I look at that list maybe every two or three months. Every president has one and they're

0:51.6

actually pretty interesting. Like, yeah, Reagan's is by far the best because, like, he was just a film guy.

0:56.2

So he's just watching Reds.

0:57.6

Like, he's having a good time, whereas Bill Clinton, every single one feels calculated.

1:01.8

Reagan watched every Woody Allen movie as it came out, which you would not think.

1:06.1

But I think he just liked, you know, upper middle brow kind of movies.

1:10.3

That's so funny.

1:11.5

It'd be funny if like Bill Clinton just watched Dave a hundred times.

1:15.5

Oh, I got to check if that's on the list.

1:17.8

I bet you that's on the list.

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