Hey everyone, Ben Cooper Radio, what is happening? I'm excited about today's show.

Today's show, I don't think I've ever interviewed a man on wheels. I've just come off my wheels,

I've just on my first long bike ride in hour and 45 minutes and this

guy is probably going to put me to shame when it comes to exercise on wheels. I'm fascinated to talk to

someone that lives their life on wheels and I spoke I don't I don't know why I've

never spoke to someone in the fitness industry that is on a wheelchair that does sort of disability-focused fitness.

I don't really know. I don't know if it's because it's maybe not as common. It's not in the mainstream mainstream but it's a part of fitness that

needs a spotlight shed on it because it's just as valuable as we'll just call it

everyday fitness I'm very concerned today about mincing my words.

I don't want to kind of almost make myself feel bad. It's not a conversation that I would

have every day talking to someone that is disabled and I think

sometimes that does make people feel uncomfortable because we don't always have those conversations

every day in our lives. So my guest before I introduce him

I give him free reign to pull me up on anything if I do put my foot in at any point.

But hopefully I don't. Anyway, my guest today, welcome to the show, Ben Clark.

Hello.

Oh, thank you very much, Ben.

And don't worry about putting your foot in it.

I do all the time anyway myself.

Dude, I do like, I expect to people, when you meet people do, do you see that almost like, obviously when

they're new, that kind of like slightly uncomfortable, slightly like, oh I need to watch what I'm saying, like, do you get that vibe?

Yeah, do you know, it depends quite often.

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