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Freedomain with Stefan Molyneux

5445 The Truth About 'Dune'!

Freedomain with Stefan Molyneux

Stefan Molyneux

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🗓️ 21 March 2024

⏱️ 139 minutes

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Join Stef, Izzy, James, and Jarrod as they explore the truth about Dune!

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0:00.0

Hi, everybody.

0:00.8

We are doing Dune, the Dune.

0:03.8

We're doing the Dune.

0:06.4

We're doing the culture.

0:07.1

We're doing the history.

0:08.5

First of all, you don't have to have read the books.

0:10.5

You don't even have to have seen the movie to make this incredibly valuable to you.

0:15.2

We're going to break down the whole artistic process and all the stuff that's not being talked about with regards to this story, which is

0:22.2

considered the most influential and successful and rich and deep and complex science fiction

0:26.6

novel of all time.

0:28.2

And also outside of the genre, just as science fiction, is considered a fantastic book.

0:32.5

My history with Dune, I saw it, of course, around all the time when I was in my early teens. You mean like the first movie? No, no. The, oh, do you think I am? Oh, you mean the very first David Lynch movie? Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, no, even before that, because the book was written, published in mid-60s, right? Yeah. So it was all around. It creeped me a, I would see it. I maybe flipped through a little bit and I saw all these Arabic things and it's like, this is not my culture. My culture, my history is like Knights of the Round Table. It's Lord of the Rings. It's it's bear wolf. It's all of that stuff. And I was really into the D&D. So I'm like, well, why would I want this nonsense foreign desert story? Right. And I just, I can't honestly remember if I even started to read it and didn't like it because I was in the library all the time and it was everywhere. And it was a real phenomenon. All then, none of my friends were into it. We were all into Lord of the Rings and the European mythology. So I never read the books and I wasn't going to watch the movies.

1:44.3

But then we decided to, for reasons that pass. Oh, because it was just kind of big and we were getting lots of questions about it. Yeah, sure. And this is sci-fi's Florida of the Rings. Very much so. Okay, so that's me, Steph. If you guys want to mention yourselves too. I'm Jared. have been working for the show about a year now, working with the show about a year now and help out with research and things like that,

1:49.1

wherever and however I could help doing the thumbnails and such. On to James. On to me. Okay.

1:56.6

Yeah, Izzy. Child, you've probably heard me in other shows. Yes. And you watched it on a plane. I was the famous hand of the live stream. And you, yeah, you watched it on a plane. I did watch it on a plane. I had seen a video about due about the movie, like reviewing it and kind of going in depth about like the world building. I thought, hey, this is actually really cool. So I kind of got into it. And then I happened to be on a plane flight. And I saw that they had the movie available to watch. And I was like, oh, I've been looking for this opportunity forever. So I watched it. And then. But with no sound, basically right. A while later. So you missed all the. I don't watch. Yeah, this is my weird thing. is usually I't watch anything with any audio. Like, if I'm watching a video, I turn the subtitles on and I have either the audio completely off or I'm listening to music through something else. So, okay. You're just a subtitle person. I'm just a subtitle person. Because that also helps me, I think, decipher whether the movie is actually good in a way. It's like, okay, maybe the audio makes it seem really cool, but is it actually that cool? Well, they manipulate the crap out of you with like the piano, soft piano sadness and the... Yeah, like, if I'm laughing at the audio without... Or if I'm laughing at the dialogue because there's no music to guide me, then. Right, right.

3:23.9

But that's not even just for movies, just all like random videos and stuff. Right. So now we've seen both the movies. We've all seen both movies. Yeah, I was high to see the second one after came out. James, you didn't read the book as a teen, right? No, well, not as a teen. I read it in my, I want to say, or mid-20s or so.

3:41.0

I don't have so much of a love or really much of a hate for Dune in a way. Just sort of, it's a thing. I like the Lord of the Rings much more myself. But yeah, no, I wasn't going to watch, I don't watch movies very much. Right. Lately, especially. I've never been a guy. But, yeah, I know the opportunity to look over the movies and get a sense of what's going on.

3:47.1

Yeah, and it's a lot of, once you start dating into the things, it gets really deep.

3:51.6

Yeah, we're going super deep on this.

3:53.5

And also, I remember that my friends who liked D&D and Knights of the Roundtable and all of this, they were all people I liked.

4:03.3

And the people who were into Dune were like druggie weirdos.

4:06.6

No offense.

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