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Thank you. Hello everyone and welcome to the Ellis James and John Robbins show.

It's a long time in the past, isn't it? What does that mean? Today is a long time in the past, if you're listening live. A lot has happened to us since today. Yes. Yeah, because of the unique way we record this and because of the unique way that I go on holiday during half term.

And because of the unique way I climb mountains. Yes. Are we all the way next week? This is exciting. Last week. Last week. I'm back now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going away again next week, probably. I don't know. Are you? No, of course not. I love for this show, John. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll take one week off and that is it.

That is it. I've got to ask a question,

are you wearing a t-shirt

of a cowboy smoking a crack pipe? Yes. On a donkey. On a donkey? Yes, I am. Oh, what's up? That is the least John Robbins t-shirt I've ever seen in my life. Or is it?

Oh, it's BPB, Ellis.

Right.

Is that difficult for you?

Um, I... seen in my life. Or is it? Oh, it's B-P-B, Ellis. Right. Is that difficult for you? Because you love B-B-B-B. It's a Bonnie Prince Billy T-shirt. It certainly is. You love Bonnie Prince Billy. You love his music. You love his thought, his mind, his attitudes. His labels. And his label. And works for his label. And everyone who works just label. Hi, Gillian. Hi, I'm here. What are you doing? Saying hi to my friends at Domino, Dave. You've met him. Sorry, I do have other friends. You've met him. You've interviewed him. You've cherished his records for almost 30 years. Very much so. Terrifying. I've written about him in, well, I think we're calling it a Sunday Times bestselling

memoir slash blubography. Still. It's a lovely passage. It's a lovely, it's a lovely chapter

about Bonnie Pleas really. But you don't really like don't really like donkeys, cowboys cramp. I like donkeys and I like cowboys. What's happening there, do you? Yeah, I'm a big Clint Eastwood fan. Are you? Yeah, I've watched all of his films. He's a superb director. You would make... But not politically, I think we differ on a few areas. Yeah, and that's fine. Takes all sorts.

I mean, you think people should own more guns. Yeah. I could see you as a cowboy. Thank you, Dave. No, no. No, and no. No, there's a lot of solitude knocking about as a cowboy. Just on the open range. Trotting around. It's very hot. So can imagine the heat and in his leather chaps with his revolver.

I wouldn't like that, actually. trotting around. It's very hot. Can you imagine the heat and in his leather chaps with his revolver?

I wouldn't like that, actually.

I also have often thought when I was watching Westerns,

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