Bourbon is another one of those things. I cannot think of a certain time where I've had bourbon at any given moment and my mind hasn't been transformed to another point in time as a point of reference. I don't do that with vodka. I don't do that with, you know, seltzers, but I don't even remember my first seltzer. But bourbon, there is always a significance, whether it is a location

or time in memory. And that is one of the most powerful psychological, addicting things that I think

keeps us going back to that well to a certain extent. This is Bourbon Pursuit, the official podcast of Bourbon, bringing to you the best in news, reviews, and interviews, with people making the bourbon whiskey industry happen,

and I'm one of your hosts, Kenny Coleman.

Is your love for high-proof, perfectly aged bourbon actually good for you?

Or are we just telling ourselves that as we reach for the second pour?

Today, we're finally tackling the elephant in the whiskey room,

and we brought the science to back it up.

We're joined by Dr. Ulysses Wu, or he goes by Uly.

He's the chief epidemiologist at Hartford Health Care.

Uly's personal journey, it's kind of wild.

He went from corporate finance to then to the front lines of infectious diseases, and now

focuses on the intersection of alcohol, health,

and longevity. He shares his own bourbon journey with us, including the incredible story

of how he procured probably some of the most rare stitzelweller bottles on the planet,

but it was a time when nobody was really looking for them. However, in this eye-opening episode,

we dive not only into the calorie problem for barrel-proof bourbon,

but even the studies that show alcohol and cancer research, there could be a correlation.

And we also get into Yuli's concept of firewalls, the human ability to curb excess.

We explore why robust long-term health studies on alcohol are so difficult and how they're really impossible

to conduct and perhaps most profoundly the powerful psychological impacts of bourbon, which

usually calls a time machine for positive memories. This is one of those episodes that I encourage

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