This is Jocko podcast number 540 with Echo Charles and me.

Jocko Willink, good evening, Echo.

Good evening.

You may have heard me offer advice, especially for people getting out of the military,

because it can be a rough transition.

And one of the core piece of advice that I give to people that are getting out of the military

is to find a new mission.

Find a new mission.

That's a really good move because in the military, when you're in the military, you have a mission, you have a purpose, you have a goal.

And every day you wake up and you're applying yourself.

And the people around you are applying themselves to accomplishing this mission.

And then one day you get out and it's gone

it's gone poof and that lack of a mission has caused quite a few quite a few veterans over the year

years to go down a bad path and it's not good at all so you have to find a new mission

now that right there is often easier said than done right oh just go find a new mission like it's just gonna pop up

It can be challenging to do that. Well, Marine Corps vet Ben Ingram recognized the same thing that veterans need a new mission and he has one for them, which is awesome to be able to give a veteran a new mission is an outstanding thing to be able to do.

And we're going to talk about that today. The military and the Marine Corps specifically got

Ben on track when he was heading down a bad path. And it's interesting because we actually

grew up in the same town.

I was thinking I went to high school with his sister Heidi, but it wasn't just high school.

I went through like every single grade.

You know, she was my age and I went through first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, 10th, 11th, and 12th grade with his sister Heidi.

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