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Radical Personal Finance

540-Is US Government Bankruptcy a Sure Thing? A Friendly Debate with David Stein, Host of Money for the Rest of Us

Radical Personal Finance

Joshua J. Sheats, MSFS, CFP, CLU, ChFC, CASL, RHU, REBC, CAP

Self-improvement, Business, Education, Investing

4.21.9K Ratings

🗓️ 12 April 2018

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

On Episode 466 of Radical Personal Finance, I discussed the idea of the US Government's certain default on its stated obligations and commitments by referencing Professor Lawrence Kotlikoff's Congressional testimony on this subject.

After that show, my friend David Stein (host of Money for the Rest of Us) emailed me to tell me that I was wrong. :)

So, I invited him on the show to debate it with me.

Enjoy!

Joshua

Transcript

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Today on Medical Personal Finance, I have a special treat for you, a joint show with my friend

0:05.2

David Stein, who is the host of the excellent Personal Finance and Investing Podcast called

0:11.4

Money for the Rest of Us.

0:13.0

Back on episode 466 in June of 2017,

0:19.0

I recorded an episode called

0:22.0

The USA's Long-Term Fiscal Gap and Why It Matters to You,

0:27.1

America's Fiscal Insolvency and its Generational Consequences.

0:30.6

And I read an essay by Professor Lawrence Kotlikoff, I believe I read his testimony that he presented

0:35.7

to the U.S. Congress on the subject of what is referred to as the unfunded liabilities of the U.S. government.

0:45.0

Unfunded liabilities are those promises that have been made to citizens of promises of benefits, but promises that have not been paid for

0:55.6

nor has money been allocated to those benefits. Well after I published that

1:00.5

show I received an email from David and he wrote to me and he said

1:03.2

Joshua I think you're wrong about this and we intended to get together and and record

1:08.4

it but I pulled off during the fourth quarter of 2017 and the first quarter 2018 I pulled back from

1:15.0

doing a bunch of interviews and we didn't get it done until now where I

1:18.9

recently got together with him to debate this subject so the audio you're about to hear is David and me sitting down and trying

1:26.1

to figure out who's right. And I think you'll hear the challenge of that. David is a really knowledgeable guy. He worked for many

1:38.8

years as an institutional investor and now of course is his own private investor and then he teaches

1:44.9

investing on his podcast money for the rest of us and I would say that the two of

1:48.8

us would represent a fairly mainstream perspective in our experience. He came from the world of institutional

1:56.5

investment advice. I came from the world of personal financial planning and personal investment

2:01.4

advice, but both of us were involved in fairly mainstream

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