Hello, world. My guest today has a really cool political commentary show on YouTube,

and he's actually about to hit 1 million subscribers. He's a really intelligent guy, and he makes

me sound like a moron. Please welcome David Pacman.

So thanks again for doing this, man. I know you're a super busy guy,

especially with what you do and what's going on right now in politics. And these days, yeah.

Yeah. There's so much stuff in the media to digest and to be able to talk about. I feel like you must be busy. Yeah, I think it's, it's a lot of people

are confused when I say this, but I think it's actually good to limit the amount of stuff of inputs.

So I'll have some designated time to figure out like what's happened in the last 24 hours. What do I

want to talk about tomorrow? But then I also have time to just totally

unplug. So usually from the time I'm done with the Friday show until I start preparing for the

Monday show, I'm not even paying attention to what's going on in the news or politics because

it does get pretty toxic and just exhausting. So I actually, it's more important for me to find

time to just read things that have nothing to do with news, read philosophy and history and, you know, go biking and do that type of stuff.

Because otherwise, just the burnout is too, it happens to everybody if you don't.

Yeah. So what is your background? Like what, what, how did you get started in all this with, with commentary and political, your, your show, the David Packman show, before all this started, what were you doing?

Well, this started so long ago that I was just in college before the pre, the pre David Pacman show era. I was a junior in college and i was sort of dabbling in college

radio reading sports scores at halftime on the college radio station and that type of thing and i liked

something about it but it wasn't that exactly so when a community radio station started up in northampton night

twas the night before christ Christmas went all through the kitchen.

Guests were happily sipping the drinks that I'd mixed them.

With a selection of tonics from fever tree,

everyone was given their favorite G&T.

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