So Zara, we have been trying to arrange this podcast for a long time and I fully blame myself for having a busy diary.

But I'm really excited for many reasons to have you on my podcast. First, because when we talk about

menopause or actually if you Google menopause, I don't know if any of you listening have done this, it always comes up with a white-haired women.

And they usually got a fan in their hand or they've got their head like on their hands.

And they're just like, oh, they're always at work somehow on a desk.

And it just looks, yeah, it can't cope.

But they're all, and they're always white, you know, and Caucasian women.

But like, actually, women aren't all, we don't all look the same.

But the other thing is, is if you say to someone menopause, right, what's the average age of menopause, they'll probably go 50.

And when I say, oh, in some countries, withinopause, what's the average age of menopause? They'll probably go 50. And when I say,

oh, in some countries, in South Asia, for example, the average age of menopause is about 40,

and people are quite shocked with that. But I've always said that no one is too young to be menopausal, and people still look a bit confused. And I used to say every doctor needs to

know about menopause, maybe not pediatricians. And then about eight years ago, I said, no,

pediatricians need to know about menopause too. So just tell me how old you were when you became

menopausal, if you don't mind, Sarah?

10.

10. So I lost my right ovary at 10 and then I lost the majority of the left ovary at 11 due to dermoids.

Very large, two very large dermoid cyst, the first one, 22 inches, the second one, I think it was around 10.

So massive cysts.

So just for those people that haven't heard of dermoids cysts, they're not cancer at all and they can grow, as you know, very big.

So were you getting symptoms or discomfort?

Oh, the pain, the pain.

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