I dreamt that you were twisting through seven sons of gold and the gypsy was insisting

that his story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning

that you might be a treasure.

I could touch but never hold.

Hi, everybody.

Welcome back to the Soberful podcast.

This is Veronica Valley.

And this is Chip Summers.

It's good to have you with us today.

I'm going to try and get through the whole episode without my voice completely going. I've had a croaky voice for about a week now.

You have?

Yeah. I had one day when I had calls all day and I was just a horse whisper at the end of it. But hopefully I'll be okay. You can do most of the talking. I'll try. I'll try.

I was just thinking about what we're going to talk about today.

So we're going to talk a little bit about the firsts.

And by the firsts.

And by the firsts, we mean when you do things sober for the first time. We're just to talk a little bit about that because that's the theme in June this month for, so before life.

We're going to be looking at that. It's a big thing

for a lot of people, like the first time. Massive, massive. I think one of the reasons a lot of

people don't get sober is because they're frightened of having to do all those things for the

first time sober. Yeah, I think you're right. And everybody has something. Like for some people,

it's Christmas or a wedding or going on

vacation or they just can't imagine doing that sober. Sex. Sex. Oh, God, that's a big one. Yeah.

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