This is Jocko podcast number 539 with Echo Charles and me Jocco Willink.

Good evening, Echo.

Good evening.

So Leonardo da Vinci.

He said there are three classes of people.

Those who see, those who see when they are shown, those who do not see.

I want to talk to you about something that we brought up on the underground podcast.

I coined, I called it on the, on the podcast, gray slop, gray matter.

Like, you know, your brain is gray.

Gray slop.

This has to do with detachment, which is another thing, You know, I've been talking about detachment for years.

Detach from the chaos, detach from the mayhem, detach from your ego, detach from your emotions.

That's going to make your life so much better if you can do that.

But lately I've been looking around and I'm realizing how truly difficult that can be for people and at the same time

Seeing how important it is and how much it really fowls and jams people up

And when you look at someone, you know, you like you and I've talked about you you see someone that's

drinking too much and it's kind of bringing down their life and you can see it so clear but they

don't they don't get it or they're involved in a relationship that's a disaster and you explain to them

but they're like no no no no like this time or I can savor or whatever the thing is right

those are all emotional decisions those are just being all you're all in your own gray

slop your gray matter your your your core so what is that you know this gray matter actually

has the gray matter that I'm talking about is called the

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