538: The Legendary Speech on How Leaders Should Lead. Major C.A. Bach Back, 1917.
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🗓️ 29 April 2026
⏱️ 107 minutes
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Breaking down Major C.A. Bach’s legendary 1917 leadership speech and separates timeless leadership truths from outdated doctrine. They cover earning respect instead of demanding it, why confidence comes from preparation, when leaders should apologize, how to avoid becoming a power-tripping boss, and why the best leaders quietly sacrifice for their teams.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Jocko podcast number 538 with Echo Charles and me. |
| 0:03.0 | Jocko Willink. Good evening, Echo. |
| 0:05.0 | Good evening. |
| 0:06.0 | Major Christian Albert Bach, more commonly referred to as Major CA Bach. |
| 0:13.0 | Born in 1870, entered the US Army as a private in the 13th Minnesota infantry. |
| 0:23.5 | A little later by the time he deployed to the Philippines for combat in the Spanish |
| 0:28.8 | American War in 1898. |
| 0:31.6 | He was a sergeant by that time, fought with the 13th Minnesota on the right flank of the U.S. line during the Battle of Manila, August 13th. |
| 0:42.6 | And the right flank became the most contested terrain during that battle. |
| 0:48.4 | 13th, Minnesota suffered the highest casualty rate of any American unit in that battle. |
| 0:52.2 | He continued to see combat in the Philippine-American War for the next few years after |
| 0:57.7 | that where Sergeant Bach was promoted and commissioned to become a second lieutenant. |
| 1:07.9 | And then after the Philippine-American War he transitioned to the regular army |
| 1:11.8 | served in the seventh Cav by the time America entered World War I Bach was a major and |
| 1:17.6 | based on his experience his combat experience from fighting in the Philippines he started off the war |
| 1:26.9 | World War I training cadets that were to become officers and to go into company command. |
| 1:34.4 | Eventually, he did join the fight overseas. |
| 1:37.3 | He was awarded the Silver Star, the Army Distinguished Service Medal. |
| 1:41.9 | And then after the war, he continued to serve in the |
| 1:44.5 | Army until he retired in 1934 after 36 years of service he after retiring |
| 1:53.6 | became a military historian he came an author he put out some books about the |
| 1:57.0 | history of war specifically I think his most popular book was about the fourth division |
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