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The Counsel of Trent

#536 – Answering Mike Winger’s accusations

The Counsel of Trent

Catholic Answers

Religion & Spirituality

4.82.7K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2021

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

In this episode Trent responds to Protestant apologist Mike Winger’s claims that Trent misrepresented Catholic doctrine in a previous rebuttal. Trent also engages in a lengthy exploration of the doctrine of merit and shows where Winger misrepresented what the Catholic Church teaches regarding works and salvation.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast, a production of Catholic Answers.

0:10.3

Recently Mike Winger responded to a rebuttal I did of him a while back, and he focused

0:15.7

on the parts of my rebuttal dealing with issues like justification and merit.

0:19.8

I'm not going to go through everything he said in his reply because I have a pretty

0:24.5

strict policy of not doing rebuttals to rebuttals.

0:28.5

I've offered to publicly engage Mike on all of this and he's declined, so it looks like

0:33.7

we can't move forward in that respect.

0:36.8

Instead, I'm planning to do a more comprehensive response to Mike Winger in the future that will

0:43.2

include replies to the kinds of objections that he raises in his recent rebuttal.

0:49.2

For example, some of the replies that Mike mentions regarding things like James chapter

0:53.9

2 on faith and works, Romans 2 on merit.

0:57.7

Those are actually covered.

0:58.9

His replies, I have answers to those in my book, The Case for Catholicism, if you want

1:03.0

to check that out.

1:04.0

So, I'm not going to cover those topics in this video.

1:08.1

What's more concerning is Mike's accusation that I misrepresented him and more importantly

1:13.4

that I misrepresented the Catholic faith.

1:16.3

So in this episode, I'm going to focus specifically on those accusations with a special emphasis

1:23.5

on Winger's critique of what I said about earning versus mariting salvation.

1:29.4

Since that seems to be one of his biggest objections.

1:32.5

This next one is a real disagreement between us.

1:34.2

This is a big issue.

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