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The Not Old - Better Show

#536 Amy Shira Teitel - Fighting For Space

The Not Old - Better Show

Paul Vogelzang

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.7 • 106 Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2021

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Amy Shira Teitel - Fighting For Space

The Not Old Better Show, Smithsonian Associates Interview Series

Welcome to The Not Old Better Show.  I'm Paul Vogelzang.  As part of the Smithsonian American Women's History Initiative, Because of Her Story Series, our guest today is Amy Shira Teitel.

Amy Shira Teitel will be presenting at the Smithsonian Associates program on May 26, 2021, and the title of Amy Shira Teitel's  Zoom presentation is Fighting for Space: Pilots Jackie Cochran and Jerrie Cobb

Amy Shira Teitel has had a lifelong passion for spaceflight; she specialized in space history throughout her academic life, culminating in her MA thesis about the little-known Gemini-Rogallo wing

When the space age dawned in the late 1950s, Jackie Cochran held more propeller and jet flying records than any pilot of the 20th century—man or woman. She had led the Women's Auxiliary Service Pilots during WWII, was the first woman to break the sound barrier, ran her own luxury cosmetics company, and counted multiple presidents among her friends. She was more qualified than any woman in the world to make the leap from the atmosphere to orbit. Yet it was Jerrie Cobb, 25 years Cochran's junior and a record-holding pilot in her own right, who finagled her way into taking the same medical tests as the Mercury astronauts. The prospect of flying in space quickly became her obsession.

As the American and international media fell in love with the idea of a nonexistent  "woman astronaut" program, Cochran and Cobb struggled to gain control of the narrative, each hoping to turn the rumored program into their own ideal reality—an issue that ultimately went all the way to Congress.

Drawing on her new book Fighting for Space: Two Pilots and Their Historic Battle for Female Spaceflight, space historian and television host Amy Shira Teitel tells the fascinating story of these trailblazers who spent years as adversaries in search of the same goal: creating a place for women in the male-dominated arena of aviation and space flight.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Nuttled Better Show I'm Paul Vogel saying, as part of the Smithsonian

0:08.4

American Women's History Initiative because of her story series.

0:13.1

Our guest today is Amy Shira Tidal.

0:15.8

Amy Shira Tidal will be presenting at the Smithsonian Associates program May 26, 2021,

0:21.0

and the title of Amy Shira Tidal's Zoom presentation is Fighting for Space, Pilots

0:26.3

Jackie Cochrane and Jerry Cobb.

0:30.9

Amy Shira Tidal has had a lifelong passion for space flight.

0:35.1

She specialized in space history throughout her academic life, culminating in her master's

0:40.4

thesis about the little-known Gemini regalo wing.

0:44.6

When the space age dawned in the late 1950s Jackie Cochrane held more propeller and jet

0:51.0

flying records than any pilot of the 20th century man or woman.

0:55.6

She had led the women's auxiliary service pilots during World War II as the first woman

1:00.9

to break the sound barrier, ran her own luxury cosmetics company, and counted multiple

1:06.8

presidents among her friends.

1:09.1

She was more qualified than any woman in the world to make the leap from atmosphere

1:14.2

to orbit.

1:15.2

Yet it was Jerry Cobb, 25 years Cochrane's junior and a record holding pilot in her own

1:22.3

right, who finagled her way into taking the same medical tests as the Mercury astronauts.

1:29.3

The prospect of flying in space quickly became her obsession.

1:33.6

As the American and international media fell in love with the idea of a non-existent

1:37.5

woman astronaut program Cochrane and Cobb struggled to gain control of the narrative, each

1:43.0

hoping to turn the rumored program into their own ideal reality, an issue that ultimately

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