You know, my philosophy from early on, before I even had anything figured out, was do what makes you happy.

And I've always just followed that rule, you know, don't worry about anything except for doing what makes you happy.

Because that's really, I mean, if you you're happy what else do you need you know

this is Burbin pursuit the official podcast of Bourbon bringing to you the best in news, reviews, and interviews with people making the bourbon whiskey industry happen.

And I'm one of your hosts, Kenny Coleman.

You know, when you talk about the intersection of science and world-class whiskey, there's only one person that always comes to mind.

So I'm thrilled to welcome back, a true pillar of the industry,

the insightful Dr. Pat Heist. And he's the co-founder of Wilderness Trail and not his first,

not his second, but his third time being on the show. Dr. Heist is here to start breaking down

his full fascinating journey of Wilderness Trail, going from its incredible

dedicated early days to its eventual huge strategic partnership with Kempari.

And you know Dr. Pat, and his background in microbiology and firm solutions.

So we had to talk about yeast for a bit, but it's not just all about the science.

We also explore his

unexpected second career. You know, he's got his music with his band Zella Mae, but he also

is kind of becoming his own little piece of shark tank. He's now investing in other small

businesses. And so we're going to talk about that. Plus, we couldn't leave without actually

drinking some of his whiskey, so we dive in some new bourbon and rise that he's about ready to share with the world.

With that, enjoy this week's episode, and now here is Fred Minnick with Above the Char.

I'm Fred Minnick, and this is Above the Char.

This week's idea comes from Sanch Debnath.

Debnath.

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