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You are not alone.

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Jake, did it what I struggle, you know?

It was incredible.

It looks like your head exploded to see what was really there. And now here's your host, you know. It was incredible. You know, it's like your head exploded, what was really there. And now here's your host, Brad Listy. Just one person at just one time. Hey, everybody, hello. How's going? Welcome to the Other People podcast. I'm Brad Listy. I am here in Los Angeles. Thanks for tuning in. Ruth Ozeki is my guest today. She is a novelist, a filmmaker, and a Zen Buddhist priest.

Her first two novels are called My Year of Meets. That was published in 1998 and All Over Creation,

which arrived in 2003. Her most recent novelist called A Tale for the Time Being. It was published in

2013 and was a breakout success.

It won the LA Times Book Prize.

It was shortlisted for the Man Booker Prize and the National Book Critics Circle Award and was published in over 30 countries.

In 2016, she published a work of personal nonfiction called The Face, a Time Code.

She has made documentary and dramatic independent films, including Having the Bones, which appeared on PBS, and at the Sundance

Film Festival. She's a longtime Buddhist practitioner and was ordained in 2010 as a Zen Buddhist priest.

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