On this episode of the Symbolic World podcast, I am playing for you an interview that I gave

at Wycliffe College for a special event. In it, you will find a little bit of my story,

a little bit of my opinions about art and about its place in the world, especially in a world

of faith. This is actually a podcast exclusive. I've never put this out as a video because I didn't

have any images. And so now I just figured that I'll put it out to you guys as a special event on this

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And so please enjoy this discussion I gave at the University of Toronto, Wycliffe College.

Music. of Toronto, Wycliffe College.

This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world.

Jordan Durstein is an associate pastor at the Meeting House downtown, and also a student here at Wycliffe College.

And I'm really happy tonight that we were able to

get Jonathan Pajou. He's an author, speaker, and artist. And he'll share a little bit about his

life and things that he's really passionate about. And we're really honored to have him here today.

And so I'd just like to welcome you tonight.

Very good. Welcome everyone again, and a special welcome to Jonathan.

So Jonathan, just to put everything in a bit of perspective, now you are an orthodox iconographer, but that is not the tradition you grew up in

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