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Freedomain with Stefan Molyneux

5291 The Truth About Luck!

Freedomain with Stefan Molyneux

Stefan Molyneux

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🗓️ 24 October 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Would you expound on the “Me Plus” concept? It seems to me entirely appropriate that my [still theoretical] wife will not like “me” in a pure world-of-forms sense, but only for that which I am and do for her.
In other words, what is the essence of “Me” but a sum of the parts—some of which serve the children/wife/community/self/God, some of which do not.
A ridiculous example, what could it possibly mean to love a girlfriend if she’s chosen obesity, cruelty, verbal abuse; to sterilize herself from ever procreating; and to obstruct everything good about me? Of course this would never happen, but how can one separate loving “her” from all that which she is choosing?
The same, how can she love “‘me” irrespective of what I seem am and do?
Isn’t the threat of losing the other’s affections a great incentive to stay good oneself?
My position: I am a man (early 20’s) excited to be “me plus” because without the plus, there is no “‘me” to be valued. What am I missing?


long time subscriber here, I have trouble not getting down with things out of my control.
My truck i just paid off got totalled by some uninsured guy and the payout was quite unfair (70% value of $21,000 vehicle) from my insurance company. I had full coverage.
This was out of my hands but I still got depressed for a couple months because I felt cheated by the situation.
Any advice from you/philosophy on how to prevent this from happening?
Thank you for everything you do. My life has been 1000% improved since I started listening to you 10 years ago.

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0:00.0

Alrighty great questions from the noble crew at freedomain. locals.com I hope that you will join

0:06.6

the conversation so a great place to be so would you expand on the me plus concept? So I first talked about this in my presentation on the death of Robin Williams and it goes a little something like this so let's say that you're lonely you want friends But you feel like you have to do something other than be yourself

0:25.5

to get your friends.

0:26.2

So you have to be compulsively jokey.

0:29.4

You have to be paying for everyone's drinks. You have to be the wingman. have to praise them you have to make them look better

0:36.2

you have to whatever it is something that's more than just yourself you have to also

0:41.2

kind of manipulate them by providing value other than who you are.

0:45.4

So you plus, right?

0:48.0

I mean, the foundational example of this is if you want a woman to sleep with you

0:55.1

That you have to pay her then it has to be you plus money to get her

0:59.8

To sleep with you so

1:02.1

That's the me-plus concept. And the listener goes on to say,

1:06.6

it seems to be entirely appropriate that my still theoretical wife would not like me

1:10.9

in a pure world of form sense, but only for that which I am and do for her.

1:16.0

In other words, what is the essence of me but the sum of the parts, some of which serve the children,

1:22.4

wife, community self-garde, some of which serve the children wife community self-gard, some of which do not.

1:25.0

A ridiculous example, what could it possibly mean to love a girlfriend if she's chosen obesity, cruelty, verbal abuse, to sterilize herself from ever procreating,

1:36.2

and to obstruct everything good about me.

1:39.6

Of course this would never happen, and how can one separate, loving her from all that which she is choosing?

1:47.0

The same.

1:48.1

How can she love, quote, me, irrespective of what I seem am and do.

1:55.0

Isn't the threat of losing the others affections a great incentive to stay good oneself?

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