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Crawlspace - True Crime & Mysteries

528 // Zodiac Killer Unmasked?!

Crawlspace - True Crime & Mysteries

Crawlspace Media

True Crime, News, Society & Culture

41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna speak with old friend Mike Morford about his investigation into the identity of the Zodiac killer. Morf has an extensive history of covering the Zodiac case, including having written a book on it: https://www.amazon.com/Case-Zodiac-Killer-Photographs-Criminology/dp/1947290533. Check out Morf's podcasts here: https://www.abjackentertainment.com/. Zodiac Speaking episodes on Mac below: https://www.abjackentertainment.com/zodiac-speaking/episode-37-zodiac-speaking-mac. https://www.abjackentertainment.com/zodiac-speaking/episode-44-zodiac-speaking-the-big-mac-update-76hhf-tj5yc-fwh95-p34a2-9nkgp-ge8xg Follow Mike Morford: ⁠https://twitter.com/AbJackEntertain⁠. ⁠https://www.instagram.com/truecrimeguy/ *This episode is brought to you by Mood, the online cannabis company that's revolutionizing how we deal with life's challenges – from sleepless nights to stress-filled days. You can get 20% off your first order at https://mood.com/ with promo code Crawlspace.* Follow Crawlspace: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Tim here today with Lance. Lance, how are you today?

0:32.6

I'm doing fantastic today, Tim. The guests we have on actually does not need an introduction. I know that that's a cliche thing to say that the guest does not need an introduction.

0:42.3

He doesn't.

0:42.9

He's been on the show more times than I can count.

0:45.4

He is one of the most prolific true crime producers in the podcasting space and also very responsible in the work that he does in the

0:56.6

investigations that he takes part in and you'll hear it here you'll hear the work that he puts

1:01.8

in to this case that has spanned generations and he is not going to stop and he's really convinced

1:09.1

that he's got an answer for this one but tim Tim, I need an answer for me right now.

1:12.1

How are you?

1:12.8

I'm doing great over here.

1:14.2

Kind of still buzzing over our interview with Mike Morford, this appearance that we're

1:23.1

about to play here.

1:24.4

Mike Morford is known by a true crime guy on social media. He's got Abjack

1:30.0

Entertainment, and you can go to abjackentertainment.com to find a list of all of his

1:36.6

podcasts. We're going to be speaking about one of his podcasts called Zodiac Speaking Today,

1:42.3

and he's dug very deep into this case for years. And he's got a

1:47.6

suspect, Lance. And Morph has gone out on a limb, sort of staking his reputation to some degree

1:54.8

on a previously unknown Zodiac killer suspect. And I'm a bit shocked by this and by how many, I guess,

2:06.0

circumstantial evidentiary points, like connections that are made here.

2:13.2

I wonder just when that line can be crossed from circumstantial or coincidental and morph brings it up a few times that there are a number of coincidences here.

2:24.0

But at what point do you say, well, this is no longer circumstantial?

2:28.4

I think he's at that point because he says not 99% convinced.

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