Hello everyone. This is Real Crime Profile with your host, Kathy Canning Mello, former

FBI profiler, and my dear friend and host.

Tim Clemente, retired FBI Profiler, former New York City prosecutor and writer producer of

Criminal Minds, Bluebeard, and co-host with Kathy Canning on FBI Profilers Criminal Archives.

Anyways, great to have you back Kathy and let's continue our discussion about these questionable deaths of young men who are out drinking and partying with their friends or something similar to that and then they end up dead and people think there might be a serial killer involved.

So let's just jump right back in. When you're talking about people who are engaging in, like you said, high-risk behavior, but also in these mind-altering substances, one of the difficulties of staying safe when you're using

illegal drugs is that you have no idea, there's no real consistency of what the actual compounds you're putting into your body are.

You know, obviously lately there's a tremendous amount of fentanyl being being added to drugs that where one pill could kill somebody, it's so incredibly

potent,

potent, literally one pill.

And why is it that people feel comfortable buying things?

I mean, there's huge chunks of society that won't buy any product from any store

without reading the ingredients. But you can't read the ingredients on an illegal pill or something that you smoke or something that you snort up your nose.

You can't read the ingredients. You have no idea what's actually in that.

And so we don't know when we see these things happen. A, what was in the actual substance, what was used to cut it. And when test these victims when they when they test them

for what was in their systems there's no test that will tell you everything that's

in the system they have to do specific tests to find or not

find specific things, right? So they have to do multiple tests and they may not necessarily

catch what it was cut with. They may not necessarily catch what it was cut with they may find out what the major substance was but they may not find out what was what was left you know what was used to to expand it you know so when apparently when it was made it was probably pretty pure but like with

meth people are cooking these things in in in backwoods trailers and and you know warehouses and they they don't have a

degree in chemistry or or biology or physiology they have no idea what what they're actually making and so they there can be

accidental poisonings with that but there are also people who then take whatever

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