This is Jocko podcast number 519 with Echo Charles and me Junkle Willink.

Good evening, echo.

Good evening.

Also, still with us.

Crazy Joe Claiborne.

If you haven't listened to 516 yet, we just, that's the first podcast that we did,

talking about crazy Joe Claiborne, who served with us in the Battle of Armadi

and was just an integral

part of the operations there and just an amazing human being.

So we started, we went four hours deep on that podcast.

Of course, I opened it up with a welcome to Ramadi bitch speech from Crazy Joe Claiborne.

We talked through that, but we were at four hours, so we called it.

But we came back, and now we're going to talk about, we're going to pick up that story, which is you were had orders to Ranger School to be an instructor at Ranger School.

This is post, this is post one deployment to Afghanistan, the initial deployment to Iraq,

your Ramadi deployment to Iraq, a period of time spent with a Pathfinder element

where you trained them up, and then you get, finally get orders, you're going to go to

Ranger School and be a Ranger instructor, company commander, and you get a little phone call

that the Army needs something else from you.

And what the Army needs from you is they need you to swap with another guy who had

an exceptional family member need, and that guy needed to go to be the ranger

instructor company commander and you joe claiborne instead of going to forbending georgia we're going

to england to be an officer in the british parachute regiment that's where we were at crazy in

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