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The ONE Thing

514. Why Smart People Stay Stuck in "Getting Ready" Mode with Pat Flynn

The ONE Thing

NOVA Media

Entrepreneurship, Business, Careers

4.6 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

If you love learning but find yourself stuck in preparation mode, this episode is for you. I sit down with Pat Flynn—entrepreneur, host of Smart Passive Income, and author of Lean Learning—to talk about why consuming more information doesn’t always lead to better results. Pat shares how learning can become a form of procrastination, why we fall into the trap of information overload, and how to break the cycle by focusing on purposeful action. We unpack strategies like just-in-time learning, unsubscribing from distractions, and using the “joy of opting out” to reclaim your focus. Pat also introduces the idea of micro-mastery: zooming in on the smallest skill you can improve to create real momentum. Learning less—and acting more—might be your fastest path to extraordinary results. Challenge of the Week: Pick a very small part of your craft or business—the tiniest sliver that matters—and focus on getting a little bit better at just that. Micro-mastery starts with one small improvement. What’s yours? *** To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: the1thing.com/pods. We talk about: How to tell if you’re stuck in learning as a form of procrastination The difference between just-in-case and just-in-time learning How to use micro-mastery to accelerate your growth Links & Tools from This Episode: Read Lean Learning by Pat Flynn Listen to the Smart Passive Income podcast Read Will It Fly? by Pat Flynn Read Moonlighting on the Internet by Yanik Silver Free Resources Want to be a guest or share feedback? Email [email protected] or send us an audio note at Speakpipe.com/the1thing. Produced by NOVA

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0:00.0

You know sometimes when we really want to do something and in order to do it, the first thing we do is we got to go out there and learn.

0:05.6

We got to do all of this stuff. We've got to learn everything about it before we start. I know so many entrepreneurs that will spend weeks and months on a business plan before they take the first action and they don't even know if they'll like what they're doing.

0:18.0

So my guest today is actually Pat Flint. He's a long-time

0:21.4

friend, huge fan of the one thing, and he's just come out with an amazing book called Lean Learning.

0:26.8

I read it from start to finish in one day. The subtitle is how to achieve more by learning less.

0:32.3

Pat has helped thousands and thousands and thousands of self-starters and entrepreneurs launched their businesses

0:38.1

with his huge podcast, smart, passive income. He's also repeated that success by building a massive

0:44.9

YouTube following around Pokemon cards of all things, just a passion project with him and his

0:49.3

sons that's turned into a massive business. And we're not talking about thousands or hundreds

0:53.4

of thousands or even

0:54.9

millions of views. We're talking billions with the B. This guy has really helped making impact in the

1:01.2

world. He's helped lots of people and entertained them. And he's here to teach you how to get out of

1:05.8

your own way. How to focus on the learning that actually gets you faster to action and the actions you need to be

1:12.6

successful so that learning is no longer a delay tactic. It's no longer an avoidance technique.

1:18.2

It's actually how you get the things you want faster. I'm going to get out of the way now.

1:22.5

Let's hear from my good friend Pat Flynn on how he's using tools like lean learning and the One Thing to help people

1:28.6

achieve more. I'm Jay Papazan and this is the One Thing, your weekly guide to the simple

1:33.2

steps that lead to extraordinary results. All right, Pat, welcome to The One Thing podcast.

1:49.6

I'm so happy to get to talk to you on a podcast again.

1:52.2

It's been a while.

1:53.0

It's been so long, and it's been a dream to be on your show.

1:55.1

Thank you so much.

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