514: Burnout Recovery For Helping Professionals With Laura Van Dernoot Lipsky
Therapy Chat
Laura Reagan, LCSW-C
4.4 • 762 Ratings
🗓️ 5 February 2026
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
This week's episode is a replay of my previous conversation with Laura van Dernoot Lipsky, author of Trauma Stewardship and founder of the Trauma Stewardship Institute. We discussed the problem of burnout among helping professionals, and how it is possible to recover. Laura is a funny and wise guest, and if you're feeling overwhelmed, you may appreciate this episode.
We discussed trauma exposure, an occupational hazard for those in the helping professions, and something that has affected many of us who are caregivers, whether or not that's what we do for work. You'll hear about how to come back from secondary traumatic stress, vicarious trauma and burnout.
Laura van Dernoot Lipsky shares what helped her when she reached the point of knowing she needed a break from trauma work. Whether you are there, or wanting to prevent getting to that point, you will find hope and resources for healing in this episode. And if you are a therapist seeking support, learn about Trauma Therapist Network and find all the resources from this episode below.
Resources for this episode:
Trauma Stewardship: An everyday guide to caring for self while caring for others
The Age of Overwhelm: Strategies for the long haul
TED Talk: Beyond the Cliff
Check out Laura van Dernoot Lipsky's new podcast, Future Tripping!
More Resources:
Therapists - if you're ready to allow yourself to be held in nature with a community of like-minded therapists, my Mind, Body + Soul Healing Retreat for Therapists in Tulum, Mexico is here. November/December dates will be announced soon!
Also, new members are being accepted in the Trauma Therapist Network membership community. Learn more here.
Are you a helping professional who wants to learn more about the Safe + Sound Protocol (SSP)? On behalf of our friends at Unyte Health, we are pleased to share this Trauma Recovery Toolkit, a free resource aimed to support you as you work with clients who present with trauma and nervous system dysregulation. Download the toolkit and access an exclusive discount code for the SSP training!
Therapists and mental health professionals: I created a FREE video to help you feel more confident in supporting survivors of sexual violence in an embodied and trauma sensitive manner. Check it out here!
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Therapists, visit the new For Therapists page on the Trauma Therapist Network website for discounts on CE trainings, recommended resources and more.
Find a trauma therapist near you via findtraumatherapy.com! We believe that trauma is real, healing is possible and help is available at Trauma Therapist Network.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Therapy Notes is the highest rated EHR, practice management, and billing software for mental health |
| 0:05.1 | professionals. It's all-in-one platform is designed to streamline all aspects of your practice, |
| 0:10.2 | from connecting with clients via secure messages to scheduling, notes, billing, and more. |
| 0:15.0 | You can trust Therapy Notes has you covered. And one of the best parts? 24-7 customer service |
| 0:20.3 | with a live person. It's beyond easy to get help |
| 0:23.1 | over the phone or by email at any time of day from their knowledgeable and friendly representatives. |
| 0:27.9 | The best time to give Therapy Notes a try is now. Sign up for your free trial by going to |
| 0:32.2 | TherapyNotes.com, clicking Start My Free Trial, and accessing your first two months free with the promo code chat. |
| 0:38.6 | CY Therapy Notes is the most trusted EHR for behavioral health professionals today. |
| 0:43.5 | Therapists, ready to stop just listening and start doing? |
| 0:46.8 | I offer several ways to work with me and accelerate your trauma expertise. |
| 0:50.6 | You can join my Trauma Therapist Network membership community for ongoing support, book a one-on-one |
| 0:55.6 | clinical consultation with me for personalized guidance, or buy my course for clinicians on supporting |
| 1:00.8 | survivors of sexual trauma, and check out the retreats coming up in 2026. All that info and more is on |
| 1:07.0 | the four therapists page of Trauma Therapist Network, and you can find a link in the show notes. |
| 1:12.0 | Therapy Chat Podcast, episode 514. |
| 1:16.5 | This is the Therapy Chat podcast with Laura Reagan, LCSWC. |
| 1:22.9 | The information shared in this podcast is not a substitute |
| 1:26.5 | for seeking help from a licensed mental health professional. |
| 1:30.3 | And now, here's your host, Laura Reagan. And this week, I think we could all use some information about burnout. And so I'm replaying |
| 2:05.0 | my interview from 2016 with Laura van der Neut-Lipski, the author of Trauma Stewardship, which is a book |
| 2:14.8 | I just love and recommend so much for anyone in the helping professions, |
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