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The Natasha Crain Podcast

51. Andy Stanley's Church is Coaching Middle School Leaders to Affirm Trans Identities

The Natasha Crain Podcast

Natasha Crain

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

51.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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The website and X account protestia.com got ahold of a training video from Andy Stanley's hugely influential North Point Church on how middle school leaders should respond to trans-identifying kids and their families. The video features Britt Kitchen, the middle school ministry director at North Point, effectively encouraging leaders to affirm trans identities (I say effectively because he doesn't explicitly say that, but it's the implication of all he's presenting). In this episode, I play a...

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0:00.0

Hey everyone. Welcome to the Natasha Crane podcast. Well, you guys, I am really fired up today. I didn't even

0:13.5

plan on recording an episode, but I was on social media and gasp. Something really upset me.

0:20.7

I know that's shocking that social media can do

0:22.4

that to us, but I was so upset by a six-minute video that I came across on X this morning

0:28.2

that I had to record this podcast right away. So the website and X account, protestia.com,

0:35.1

got a hold of a training video from Andy Stanley's North Point Church

0:39.1

in the Atlanta area on how middle school small group leaders should respond to trans identifying

0:44.1

kids and their families. The video is of a guy named Britt Kitchen, and Kitchen is the transit

0:50.2

director for North Point Church. So transit is the middle school ministry there. And the video

0:55.6

that Protestia posted is about six minutes and it's extracted from a longer 20 minute video. Well,

1:01.6

this training clip is so egregious that I had to make an episode about it. There are two reasons

1:07.6

why you need to care. First, North Point Church is a huge church with huge

1:12.1

influence. So from estimates that I've seen online, they have an average weekly attendance

1:16.7

of over 50,000 people. The head pastor, Andy Stanley, has gotten more and more progressive

1:22.9

over time. But a lot of people still aren't aware of the problems going on in his church and with

1:29.0

what he's preaching. So I'm still out here waving a flag, as I do periodically about him, saying

1:34.6

that this is the stuff going on at this huge church with tons of influence in the Atlanta area.

1:40.5

And a lot of people still assume that he's biblically solid. I still have people when I will mention

1:45.3

him online who respond and say, well, what's wrong with Andy Stanley? Well, here's an episode

1:49.7

where we can talk about just one example of what's been going on there. The second reason you should

1:54.9

care is that this is a really great case study of how completely unbiblical views of trans issues are being presented

2:03.3

within the church and it's fooling people. This is manipulative stuff. It is fully deceptive.

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