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🗓️ 24 September 2024
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0:00.0 | In the consult, we discuss cases involving violence, sexual violence, abduction, and murder. |
0:08.0 | Sometimes the cases we discuss involve children. |
0:12.0 | Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to the consult. I'm Julia Cowley, Retired FBI profiler, and today I'm joined by my colleagues. |
0:42.5 | Susan Costler Drew. |
0:44.3 | Angela, Susan, and Bob Drew. |
0:46.9 | Angela, Susan, and Bob are also retired FBI profilers, and we work together in the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit. |
0:56.7 | Previously, we released a three-part series on the 1986 murder of Scott Macklam, a case where many believe Fred Freeman, |
1:04.4 | now known as Temogen Kensu, was wrongly convicted. We analyzed the crime scene in victimology, profiling the likely |
1:12.8 | characteristics of the offender, and also examined who Fred Freeman was at the time to determine |
1:19.1 | if he matched those characteristics. Our conclusion was he did not. However, about a week ago, |
1:26.9 | I received an email from Crystal Merrill, one of the key |
1:30.6 | witnesses against Freeman in his 1987 trial. Attached was a transcript over 1,300 pages of |
1:39.0 | Freeman's 2010 commutation hearing. In her message, Crystal wrote, you might find this information |
1:46.9 | useful in your profile of Temogenkensu. And indeed we did. The transcript provided valuable |
1:55.1 | insights we didn't have during our initial analysis, especially since Freeman did not testify during his trial, but did during |
2:03.3 | the hearing. So today we're going to walk through this transcript, share our observations, |
2:08.7 | and discuss whether it alters our original assessment of Fred Freeman. This hearing took place |
2:16.0 | in September of 2010, so almost 24 years after the murder, but this is also a long time ago from today. |
2:25.4 | So this commutation hearing was held in front of the parole board, and it was emphasized that while this was not a trial because the trial had already occurred, |
2:35.0 | they would still be assessing his innocence claim since his commutation request was based on that. |
2:42.3 | The focus was also in trying to assess the type of person Fred Freeman is or was at the time |
2:50.6 | and trying to determine if he posed a danger to the public |
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