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508: The Mission Continues Beyond Ramadi. With Major Scott Huesing

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Jocko DEFCOR Network

Management, History, Business

4.831.3K Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2025

⏱️ 247 minutes

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Retired Marine Major Scott Huesing, author of Echo in Ramadi, to walk through the brutal realities of combat in Iraq’s deadliest city, the cost of leadership, and the transition back home. Scott shares the powerful story of his Marines, the memorials for the fallen, his personal battles after service, and how writing became a new mission to honor and preserve these stories. From Gold Star families to fellow veterans finding their voice, this is a conversation about sacrifice, resilience, and keeping the legacy alive.




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0:00.0

This is Jocko podcast number 508 with Echo Charles and me, Jocco Willink. Good evening.

0:04.8

Good evening.

0:07.6

I used to think about the medals and ribbons and parades when I was a young Marine

0:11.8

and how they were a measure of one's success. Ten deployments and multiple combat tours later,

0:17.4

I no longer did. In Ramadi, none of that meant shit to me.

0:23.7

I was in command of Echo Company, second battalion, fourth Marines deployed to Ramadi, Iraq.

0:28.9

It was the third year of Operation Iraqi Freedom, and my command was assigned to the U.S.

0:34.3

Army's Ready First Brigade Combat Team, which consisted of the largest armor and infantry alignment in modern warfare.

0:43.3

I worked directly for Task Force 1-9 infantry battalion Manchu

0:48.7

under the command of Lieutenant Colonel Chuck Ferry, U.S. Army.

0:54.0

During this nearly nine-month deployment,

0:57.0

our mission, kill or capture anti-Iraqi forces, Echo Company stood in the line of fire

1:04.1

daily in Ramadi, the most dangerous and most densely populated area of insurgent activity in 2006.

1:11.8

It would test us and would take the best of us.

1:17.5

This story is about and for the warriors of Echo Company,

1:22.2

2nd Battalion, 4th Marines, and their families.

1:25.3

It is their voices that tell of the battles we fought, the relationships we shared, and the pain

1:30.7

we still bear today.

1:32.5

It is a tribute to them, to those that are gone, those who served, and those who continue

1:39.3

to fight today.

1:41.8

During our time in Iraq, we didn't think about war movies parades and shiny

1:46.8

metals all I thought about was bringing my Marines home alive now right there is an

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