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Michael and Us

#505 - The Party's Over

Michael and Us

Luke Savage and Will Sloan

Society & Culture

4.5697 Ratings

🗓️ 8 March 2024

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Against the backdrop of the incredibly boring 2000 election, the late, great Philip Seymour Hoffman went on a cross-country journey to see if George W. Bush or Al Gore represented America. The result was THE PARTY'S OVER (2001), aka THE LAST PARTY 2000 - that's right, it's an official sequel to the Robert Downey Jr-hosted documentary. We found many resonances between this fossil from the turn of the millennium and our current moment. PLUS: The Democratic Party primary, the fascist Italian Prime Minister in Canada, and a fond farewell to David Bordwell. David Bordwell and Kristin Thompson's official website - https://www.davidbordwell.net/

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0:00.0

It's the end of the world as we know it.

0:04.1

It's the end of the world as we know it.

0:08.5

Well, welcome to Michael and Us.

0:10.0

I'm Will Sloan, here as always with.

0:11.9

Luke Savage, welcome back, everyone.

0:13.8

And I just want to tell you something.

0:15.0

I cracked open a can of Coke Zero here.

0:17.4

And I just heard today that if you drink too much Coke Zero,

0:20.7

studies show that it substantially

0:22.9

increases your likelihood of getting a stroke, which is very frustrating to me because Coke Zero had

0:28.9

been my shortcut to not thinking about snacking between meals. So I don't know what I'm going to do now.

0:34.5

Probably start smoking. I don't know, Will, I would look into

0:38.1

that study and what it actually says because there is a whole history of this kind of bullshit

0:44.1

nutrition advice that, you know, there'll be some peer-reviewed academic study or something,

0:49.7

and then some writer will skim it, you know, some writer who's like, needs to file three articles a day for a newspaper and is like,

0:56.8

okay, what do I file?

0:57.9

And they find a study where it's like, oh, yeah, it turns out that they gave Coke zero to rats

1:03.3

and the rats all had strokes.

1:05.2

And yeah, like that might be true.

1:06.6

But often what you find in those studies is like the dosage they gave them would be like the equivalent if you drank like 10 million Coke zeros in your life to even get to like the level of increased possibility that they're talking about.

1:19.7

Well, you don't know how much I've been relying on Coke zero to get me to stop thinking about snacking between meals.

1:26.4

Okay, the fact is that any, literally any substance when consumed in excess is bad for you.

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