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505: Lessons in Blood. General Greg Knight on Ramadi and Leadership

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4.831.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 September 2025

⏱️ 146 minutes

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Summary

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00:00 – Intro

Symbolism and sacrifice behind the 228th Brigade Combat Team memorial.

00:12 – Early Life & Coast Guard

Knight’s unconventional path into military service and lessons in structure.

00:25 – Joining the Guard

Transition from law enforcement to Army Guard officer and active duty.

00:55 – Ramadi Deployment

Preparing for and arriving in one of Iraq’s most dangerous cities.

01:30 – Hard Lessons Learned

Complacency, casualties, and the importance of humility in leadership.

02:12 - How to Stay on The Path.



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0:00.0

This is Jocko podcast number 505 with Dave Burke and me Jocker Willick. Good evening, Dave. Good evening.

0:07.6

The 228 brigade combat team memorial is made of iron, symbolizing iron soldiers from the Iron Brigade. Additionally, it represents the history of Pennsylvania's iron and steel industry.

0:23.6

Iron is also the most abundant element in blood, symbolizing the bloodshed by fallen warriors.

0:31.6

The obelisk stands 21 feet tall, echoing the 21 gun salute.

0:39.5

The damaged steel represents the unique war, the living fight, and the fallen.

0:46.6

Acting like armor, steel plates cover all four sides of the pedestal and hold the names of the fallen.

0:57.3

Keystones made from different elements rest above the plates one is polished steel and when one sees their reflection

1:03.6

it represents the fallen warrior inside all of us another is ballistic glass

1:10.1

that has been shattered to represent the conflict in which we were

1:13.6

engaged.

1:16.5

One is stained red wood to represent the blood we have shed.

1:22.1

Another is marble to represent the strength and resolve and steady purpose of the 228 brigade combat team.

1:32.3

Inside the obelisk dog tags for each fallen comrade are suspended from chains.

1:38.3

From the base of the structure, a light shines skyward onto the tags and through the obelisk cap.

1:46.4

The cap is made of shattered vehicle glass and acts as a window to which their souls will shine

1:53.1

for eternity. As wind passes through the structure, the dog tags move a wind chime suspended below them,

2:04.6

creating a subtle sound like the quiet whispers of the fallen as they continue to speak

2:09.2

to us.

2:12.5

Along with honoring our fallen warriors, this memorial is a reminder that our country is the beacon of liberty

2:21.7

which shines throughout the world and those right there are words from a plaque describing the

2:28.9

stunning 228 brigade combat team fallen warrior memorial statue Statue, which is at the Pennsylvania National Guard Military Museum located in Anvil, Pennsylvania.

2:41.5

And the statue was originally built and erected on the ground in Ramadi, April 16, 2006, by soldiers from the unit. So it was designed by soldiers from the unit so it was designed by soldiers from

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