502: EMDR Art Therapy + Psychedelics with Jocelyn Fitzgerald
Therapy Chat
Laura Reagan, LCSW-C
4.4 • 762 Ratings
🗓️ 29 October 2025
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
Welcome back to Therapy Chat! This week, I'm joined by Therapist and EMDR Consultant Jocelyn Fitzgerald.
We discussed the integration of creativity in trauma therapy, exploring the power of EMDR combined with creative arts, which she has used in working with refugees. She shared about her book, EMDR and the Creative Arts Therapies. The conversation also delves into the role of psychedelics in therapy, the neuroscience of creativity, and the essential nature of art in human development. Jocelyn shares practical applications for therapists and emphasizes the importance of humor in healing.
Jocelyn Fitzgerald is a board-certified art therapist (ATR-BC), licensed marriage and family therapist, and EMDRIA-approved EMDR Consultant, known for integrating creative arts into trauma therapy. She is the co-author of EMDR and the Creative Arts Therapies and Colorful Place: Mindful Story and Art for Kids, and her work has been featured in Psychotherapy Networker.
With dual master’s degrees in Art Therapy and Marriage and Family Therapy from Notre Dame de Namur University, Jocelyn blends traditional talk therapy with expressive arts to support clients navigating anxiety, depression, and self-harming behaviors. She has worked in diverse clinical settings across the country and served as an adjunct professor at Indiana University and Purdue University. Jocelyn is passionate about helping others live more authentic, connected, and creative lives.
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| 0:05.1 | professionals. It's all-in-one platform is designed to streamline all aspects of your practice, |
| 0:10.2 | from connecting with clients via secure messages to scheduling, notes, billing, and more. |
| 0:15.0 | You can trust Therapy Notes has you covered. And one of the best parts? 24-7 customer service |
| 0:20.3 | with a live person. It's beyond easy to get help |
| 0:23.1 | over the phone or by email at any time of day from their knowledgeable and friendly representatives. |
| 0:27.9 | The best time to give Therapy Notes a try is now. Sign up for your free trial by going to |
| 0:32.2 | TherapyNotes.com, clicking Start My Free Trial, and accessing your first two months free with the promo code chat. |
| 0:38.6 | CY Therapy Notes is the most trusted HR for behavioral health professionals today. |
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| 1:38.7 | show notes. Therapy chat podcast episode 502. This is the Therapy Chat Podcast, episode 502. This is the Therapy Chat podcast with Laura Reagan, LCSWC. |
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