500 // Infiltrating The White Supremacy w/ Scott Payne

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🗓️ 26 March 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by Scott Payne, aka - Pale Horse. Scott spent years infiltrating hate groups and white supremacy cells in the United States in an attempt to eradicate as much hate as possible. He made it out alive and shares some of his most harrowing stories in this episode. To pick up your copy of Code Name: Pale Horse, go to... https://bookshop.org/p/books/code-name-pale-horse-how-i-went-undercover-to-expose-america-s-nazis-michelle-shephard/20713084?ean=9781668032909&next=t Follow Scott: IG: https://www.instagram.com/scottpaynebigcountry/ Listen to Agent Pale Horse: https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/1031-white-hot-hate Follow Missing: TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm. IG: https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/. Twitter: https://twitter.com/MissingCSM. FB: https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM. Follow Crawlspace: Twitter: https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod . Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast . Instagram: https://www.Instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast. TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast. Check out our entire network at http://crawlspace-media.com/. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	I'm Tim here today with Lance. Lance, how are you today?
0:32.0	I'm doing very well today, Tim. I am so sorry. In your voice, I can hear that you're not doing so well.
0:38.2	Really, I've got to say, you're going above and beyond right now to do this intro for this
0:41.7	episode. It is a fantastic episode, a doozy of a story. We have a gentleman on who is a remarkable
0:48.0	person, has done so much in law enforcement, has done so much in his life, and is just such
0:53.0	an amazing storyteller.
0:54.6	There were so many times here where you and I were just like jaw on the floor.
0:58.6	Couldn't believe what this guy has been through.
1:00.8	And really most of the conversation is us being amazed at his tenacity and his dedication
1:08.0	to his work.
1:09.0	But Tim, I think it goes without saying how you're doing.
1:11.9	Well, yes, I'm feeling okay.
1:15.4	Definitely a little under the weather.
1:16.7	It's affecting my voice.
1:17.7	But I couldn't be more excited to be here introducing this conversation with retired FBI special agent Scott Payne.
1:26.2	And Scott went undercover for years investigating human traffickers,
1:31.8	outlaw motorcycle gangs, a lot of crazy stuff, including America's Nazis. He goes undercover to
1:39.6	expose some anti-Semites here in America and try to bring them to trial and prevent what
1:46.5	violence they were planning. And so this is an incredible conversation. He has written a new book.
1:52.4	It's called Codename Pale Horse. Gotta go get that. He's also the subject of a new podcast
1:58.1	that has done a new season on him. The podcast is called White Hot
2:02.5	Hate and the new season is Agent Pale Horse. And we'll have all of those links in the show
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