You're going to really enjoy this episode with Dr Kelly Casperson, who hopefully many of you will have heard of.

She's a great advocate for testosterone in women.

She was on the FDA panel recently.

And we talk about testosterone, what it is, what it does in our bodies, how it works in a basic physiological way,

and also how women feel when they are

prescribed the natural testosterone too. So enjoy it. Kelly, Casperson, you are here but you're

not here, which is a real shame because I loved, loved being with you in Australia. You are my new friend, best friend forever because like me, you've got a really inquisitive mind.

And I guess like me, you're quite happy to talk about things that you've learnt, things that you

might have got wrong in the past, things that you were taught at medical school, which now you know are not right,

but also you've got a lot of clinical knowledge. And I find with a lot of things,

especially in health of women where there seem to be very polarised views, is that a lot of people

that do a lot of the shouting and are really anti-hormones,

they never prescribed them.

Yes, true.

There's two things I think, which I want to unpick because we want to talk a lot about

testosterone in this podcast, is that if I don't know something, I go back to basic physiology

and basic science.

And then if I feel really down and I want to give it all up and I feel awful, I just do a day in my clinic and I do, you know,

a good day, a week anyway. It's very busy. And I just see the transformational effects of hormones.

So you have this dual effect, really. You have science supporting what you think,

and then you have the art of medicine showing you what you think and learn is true. So I think

we're both in a very privileged position that we can do both, can't we? Yes. Yeah. Yeah,

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