Hey, everybody. I have a very different one today, which by definition means for a change.

My guest is Rob Delaney. Rob is best known as the co-creator, co-writer, and co-star of Catastrophe,

the extremely popular and critically acclaimed Amazon sitcom. as the co-creator, co-writer, and co-star of Catastrophe,

the extremely popular and critically acclaimed Amazon sitcom,

now seen in 130 countries.

They did four brilliant seasons, and a number of years back,

Rob was recognized at the Comedy Central Comedy Awards as the funniest person on Twitter, which is no mean feat because there are, I would imagine, literally thousands of people on Twitter.

But as tweets were like, sometimes I put dog poop in the toilet at work.

So the guys don't think I only went in there to cry.

And after he won that coveted award, Rob wrote a book,

mother, wife, sister, human warrior falcon, yardstick, turban, cabbage.

That was both very funny, but also very dark and frank about his struggles with alcoholism and

depression. Now, my daughter gave me that book, mainly because she really liked it, and I loved it.

And at the time, I was, I was depressed. I was, this was not long after I left the Senate, and I did not know Rob, and I still really don't know him.

But at one point there, I got his email and I can't recall how.

But I emailed him to see if we could talk.

And he wrote back that he couldn't really do that and it wasn't a good time for him.

And I learned not long after that his two-year-old son, Henry, was dying from a brain tumor.

And I felt stupid that I had contacted him.

Then about six months ago, I learned that he had written the book that we're discussing on this podcast,

The Heart That Works, about Henry being diagnosed shortly after his first

birthday and the next 18 months of his life and of his family's life.

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