50: Nobel Climate Scientist Michael Mann on Denier Tactics and Idiocy
The Al Franken Podcast
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🗓️ 28 February 2021
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Mann Discusses his new book The New Climate War.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everybody. We've got a great one today, you know, for a change. And this time, this time I really mean it. My guest is Michael Mann, Nobel Prize recipient for his work in climate science. And in light of what happened in Texas. He is a very timely |
| 0:23.6 | guest, I would say. Actually, I taped the bulk of this conversation before that event. See, I actually |
| 0:30.6 | had suspected that climate change was a real thing even before that happened in Texas. So I asked Michael to come back after Texas to explain the polar vortex, and you'll hear |
| 0:43.0 | that part first. |
| 0:45.1 | Michael is a great guest. |
| 0:46.5 | This is his second time on the podcast, and I know you'll find this very helpful, actually, |
| 0:52.7 | in your understanding of what he calls the new climate war, |
| 0:57.9 | which is the name of his new book. |
| 0:59.6 | And it's basically about how a lot of climate deniers have sort of just given up the ghost, |
| 1:05.8 | finally, on denying climate change and have been engaging in some other tactics, |
| 1:11.8 | including saying, well, you know, it's hopeless. |
| 1:15.6 | We really can't do anything about it at this point. |
| 1:19.3 | So, yeah, give up. |
| 1:23.2 | Of course, one of the sensational things that came out of this Texas debacle was the Ted Cruz fiasco. |
| 1:32.8 | Now, what kind of irks me about that is the extent to which that detracts from his part in the January 6th riot at the Capitol. |
| 1:47.8 | Cruz was one of the leaders in the Senate of the attempt to stop the certification of the election on January 6th. And he did that along |
| 1:54.8 | with Josh Hawley and Ron Johnson and actually 10 other Republican senators and a majority, a large majority of House Republicans, |
| 2:04.1 | and it was all a lie. |
| 2:06.8 | And it led to the tragic events of that day. |
| 2:12.1 | And Cruz should be held responsible. |
| 2:15.1 | They should be held responsible. |
| 2:16.5 | And that's far more serious than being |
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