On this episode of the Symbolic World podcast, I am posting a discussion that I had with Jordan Peterson

called the Metaphysics of Pepe. So many people who watch my videos have told me that it is through

this discussion that I had with Jordan, that they discovered what I was doing.

It became so strange for a while that I thought that my, let's say, my little 15 minutes of fame would be spent talking about a cartoon frog.

But there's a few things to discuss about what happened.

A few important points to bring up.

And I think you'll find it very interesting to discover how this video came about and all the waves that happened around it. This is Jonathan Peugeot.

This is Jonathan Peugeot.

Welcome to the symbolic world.

The metaphysics of Pepe was actually recorded with Jordan Peterson on the same day as the last podcast I put up, tradition and things that don't fit.

It was November 7, 2016, and the political waters were at the boiling point.

There had been a few very strange coincidences between Jordan and the frog, more than

could be ignored. People on 4chan were buzzing like mad about the synchronicities, which

included their own dubs relating Jordan to the whole Pepe and their strange Keck mythology.

Oh, this was appearing online. It was a very strange time indeed. It was one day before the

election of Donald Trump. Myself, I had only recently become aware of this Pepe meme. I had

followed the relationship between

Paul, the politically incorrect channel forum on Forchan and the election of Trump.

And immediately I recognized the pattern of the frog, the ambiguity, and how it was being

used to flip things over, how chaos was being harnessed to show Trump as an

outsider, and how the Trump campaign were using the attacks by Clinton, this the whole

basket of deplorable type of attack, and flipping those attacks back against the attackers.

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