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🗓️ 8 January 2021
⏱️ 75 minutes
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Endocrinologist Will Malone joins Sasha and Stella to discuss the pivotal position that endocrinologists have in the new practice of childhood transition. In this conversation, Will describes attending a conference in 2017 run by the Endocrine Society where suddenly everything related to trans healthcare appeared to shift, without any discussion or analysis.
Extended Notes
● A quick introduction about Dr. Will Malone.
● How did Dr. Will get involved in this field?
● Dr. Will was seeing small clusters of females declaring they were trans. What was going on?
● Primary doctors were calling Dr. Will for help. They had never seen anything like this before.
● Dr. Will explains what he’s been seeing in his practice when it comes to teens experiencing gender dysphoria.
● Stella notes that the three main professionals needed are surgeons, endocrinologists, and psychologists to help teens through this journey.
● What is the role of an endocrinologist and what kind of guidelines should they be following when helping at teen transition?
● Dr. Will doesn’t agree with the treatment protocol for hormone blockers in teens.
● Dr. Will was surprised by the study they based this new treatment protocol off of. It referenced only one study and the quality of evidence, he believes, is questionable.
● Endocrinologists prescribing puberty blockers or sex hormones to teens outside of clinical trials — they are engaged in experimental medicine.
● “Let’s see what we can do.” Is not an approach any medical professional should take. People will be harmed by this.
● Sasha recaps how medical professionals were treating gender dysphoria prior to 2010 vs. how they’re treating it now. It’s alarming.
● Where’s the data?
● What are Dr. Will’s peers and colleagues saying about the Endocrine Society’s stance on this?
● The harms can be significant. We’re talking about infertility, increase in heart disease, and irreversible effects in children.
● Dr. Will has attended conferences where counterpoints are presented when it comes to prescribing new medicine, but he did not see this occur when it came to gender dysphoria. It was difficult even to submit questions.
● What type of person/endocrinologist pursues this field of work (sex hormone blockers)?
● How did SEGM get started?
● The UK recently had a ruling about puberty blockers. Dr. Wil shares more details.
● On a chemical and medical level, what happens when you stop puberty?
● Can a simulated puberty be the same as biological puberty?
● Why halt puberty with a mental intervention? Why aren’t we getting more psychologists on board during this process to help distressed teens navigate their new bodies?
● The medical field is more than happy to provide solutions to client demand, even if it is to the detriment of the client.
● Sasha is seeing something very shocking happening with parents and their gender dysphoric children right now.
● Parents are being ignored. It seems to be culturally acceptable by medical professions to skip the due diligence and go straight to hormone blockers. Any questions parents bring up — they are deemed bigotted.
● UK medical professionals think the guidelines are rubbish and are not...
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0:00.0 | You're listening to gender, a wider lens. |
0:04.0 | I'm Stella O'Malley, a psychotherapist in Ireland. |
0:06.5 | And I'm Sasha Ayad, an adolescent therapist in the United States. |
0:10.6 | Since 2016, my practice has been exclusively dedicated to gender questioning teens |
0:16.1 | and families impacted by gender dysphoria. I also work with gender questioning |
0:20.7 | teenagers and I facilitated support meetings for families and |
0:24.2 | individuals who have been impacted by gender issues. We're curious about the |
0:28.1 | concept of gender and how it's unfolding in the wider culture. Join us as we look at gender through a wider lens. |
0:37.5 | Dr. William Malone is a board certified endocrinologist. |
0:41.1 | He's a graduate of Stanford University with a BA in Human Biology and New York |
0:46.2 | University Medical School. He completed residency in Internal Medicine and a fellowship |
0:51.3 | in Indochronology, Diabetes, and Metabolism at the Los Angeles |
0:55.3 | County University of Southern California Medical Center. |
0:58.9 | He's been in clinical practice since 2008 and holds an appointment as an assistant clinical professor of endocrinology from the Idaho College of Osteopathic Medicine. |
1:09.0 | Here's our conversation with Will. |
1:11.0 | Hi there, Stella here and myself and Sasha are very excited that we've got the one and only |
1:17.4 | Wil Malone here to speak to us. |
1:19.9 | The end of |
1:23.2 | can nowages that first came to my attention a couple of years ago and I'm so interested |
1:26.0 | in what Will has to say you know about everything it's not just about puberty |
1:30.6 | blockers but all sorts of things to do with hormones will seem to have a very |
1:34.3 | incisive and sharp analysis of the situation so I'm really looking forward to this following hour |
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