5. Getting Away With It
Lady Killers with Lucy Worsley
BBC
4.7 • 908 Ratings
🗓️ 25 July 2022
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of Lady Killers, Lucy Worsley and Dr Rosalind Crone look back and discuss the first four cases and the issues and themes they share.
Together they look again at the alleged poisoners Florence Bravo and Madeleine Smith, who were said to have killed their respective husband and lover. They delve deeper into the story of the American heiress Lizzie Borden, accused of murdering her father and stepmother and discuss the teenage servant, Grace Marks who was jailed for killing her master and his lover in Canada.
They analyse the role class and gender may have played in these cases, look at why three out of the four were never found guilty of anything and discover how the choice of murder weapons was seen to reflect their gender and spark a national moral panic. Then Lucy and Ros turn their expertise onto the most important question of all, did they get away with murder?
Producer: Alex Baxter Sound design: Chris Maclean
A StoryHunter production for BBC Radio 4
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| 0:00.0 | My name is Annie Matt Manus and my name is Nick Grimshaw. How long have we known each other babe? |
| 0:05.1 | Probably 20 years now and in that time we've always worked in and around music right? |
| 0:10.6 | We have. So it kind of makes sense that we do a podcast better. |
| 0:13.4 | It sounds like he's been 20 years in the making. It's not a avatar for podcasts, basically, |
| 0:17.6 | but it is good. So we put the world to rights with regards to music. |
| 0:21.5 | It's all the stuff that you'd want to chat to your mate about over a pint. |
| 0:25.0 | Sidetracked with us, Annie and Nick, |
| 0:27.0 | listen on BBC Sounds. |
| 0:31.0 | BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts. |
| 0:37.0 | This is Lady Killers, where history meets true crime from BBC Radio 4 with me Lucy Worsley. |
| 0:44.0 | Florence Bravo, brutally exposed by the media |
| 0:50.0 | after being accused of murdering a controlling and abusive husband. |
| 0:55.0 | He got in an awful passion because I was very weak. |
| 0:58.0 | I was frightened. |
| 1:00.0 | Madeline Smith, the well-off teenage socialite, said to have murdered her lover in a revenge-pawn blackmail scandal. |
| 1:08.0 | For God's sake, do not send my letters to Papa. It will be an open rupture. |
| 1:12.0 | I will leave the house. I will die. |
| 1:15.0 | Lizzy Borden, American Erres, who, according to the nursery rhyme, took her axe and gave her |
| 1:22.0 | parents 40 wax. |
| 1:26.0 | I did not see his face because he was all covered with blood. |
| 1:30.0 | You saw his face covered with blood? |
| 1:33.6 | Yes, sir. |
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