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This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Bachelor.

The war that made the Roman Empire and to make clear Patrick Octavian at actium.

Professor Barry Strauss is the author. He's the Beaumard chair of humanistic studies at Cornell University.

The distinguished class of several books in this period for those of us who do not have the Latin

or the Greek. It's a great treat to speak with Barry about a battle that I did not know

to solve before this book. Actium. It's understood as a naval battle. Well, sort of.

It's also a battle of maneuver and it teaches the lesson again and again. We get in the 20th

and the 21st century tactics are for amateurs logistics are for professionals.

And what you're about to hear is Barry Strauss's explication of how Octavian defeated Antony

because he had a logistical genius named Marcus Agrippa. Barry, thank you very much.

We need to do a little geography. Why did the vast telemetric fleet built by

Cleopatra's treasury, Cleopatra and Antony leading. They went from Ephesus to

Patre to the Western coast of Greece. Why? What did that mean for their logistics?

Well, it was the jumping off point for invading Italy. It also effectively closed off Italy

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