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5/16: Coffee With Hitler: The Untold Story of the Amateur Spies Who Tried to Civilize the Nazis Hardcover – September 6, 2022 by Charles Spicer (Author)

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5/16: Coffee With Hitler: The Untold Story of the Amateur Spies Who Tried to Civilize the Nazis Hardcover – September 6, 2022 by Charles Spicer (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Coffee-Hitler-Untold-Amateur-Civilize/dp/1639362266

"How might the British have handled Hitler differently?” remains one of history’s greatest "what ifs."

Coffee with Hitler tells the astounding story of how a handful of amateur British intelligence agents wined, dined, and befriended the leading National Socialists between the wars. With support from royalty, aristocracy, politicians, and businessmen, they hoped to use the recently founded Anglo-German Fellowship as a vehicle to civilize and enlighten the Nazis.




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Visiting with Charles Spicer, whose new book Coffee with Hitler, is the untold story of

0:46.7

the amateur spies who tried to civilize the Nazis. It is the untold story of the good will

0:53.0

of men of both Germany and Great Britain in the period of 1930s after the dictator took

1:01.0

charge of Germany. To find a way to avoid a crisis such as we know happened. To avoid war

1:09.8

because they were scarred by the First War. We come now to September of 1936. The Anglo-German

1:17.8

Fellowship of London, the Deutsche-Agglische Gesellschaft of Berlin, have been meeting and

1:25.1

looking for ways forward to work in terms of business terms, business relationships, trade,

1:31.8

and also friendship. German speakers, Ernest Tennant, Philip Conwell Evans, and Graham

1:38.2

Christie are informing both sides of what can be done to find a way forward. One of the

1:45.9

best ideas is to have a senior British politician, the Prime Minister or near two, to meet with

1:54.4

Hitler and find a way to avoid conflict. Sally Baldwin is not available. David Lloyd

2:02.1

George is available, and it is now September of 1936, and David Lloyd George travels overland

2:09.9

to Bechtesgaden to Hitler's Alpine retreat, Berkhoff. Charles, what is Berkhoff? What does

2:18.4

it represent in this story? Why did Hitler build and stay so far away from his capital?

2:25.8

Well, it was originally a small four-bedroom cabin that Hitler rented in the late 20s, early

2:36.8

30s, before he becomes Chancellor. And once he becomes Chancellor, he buys the property

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