#499: Lin-Manuel Miranda Returns! // Part One
The Hamilcast: A Hamilton Podcast
Gillian Pensavalle
4.3 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 19 January 2026
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
Lin-Manuel Miranda returns to The Hamilcast for the third and final time… at least for now. Lin was first on the show in 2017, and it was true Russell Hammond partying with "real Topeka people" moment when he came over to a then-stranger's apartment and recorded in my living room for about four hours. In this penultimate episode, we're talking about HamilTEN, HamilTEEN, and HamilTIME. Translation: the ways the show did and didn't celebrate the ten year anniversary, the fact that Hamilton will be the high school play in a few years (!!!), and how things and people have changed over the last decade of Hamilton being out in the world.
We also talk about Lin's experience with Jonathan Larson's tick, tick... BOOM!, from having his mind blown after seeing it for the first time over 20 years ago, to directing the film adaptation ("Andrew Garfield was the other hand on the ouija board" - whaaaat?!), and the similarities and differences in Lin's and Jonathan's writing styles.
And hey boppers, I hope you're ready because we get into Lin's work on Warriors: The Concept Album with Eisa Davis and I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS. Lin talks about how the concept album came to be, what it was like to work on this extremely women-centric project, how 1979 is "fertile" for music, our mutual love for Aneesa Folds, and the fact that Lin asked super famous MCs like Nas to rap lyrics THEY DIDN'T WRITE about the BOROUGH. THEY. ARE. FROM. Incredible.
We wrap it all up talking about Basketcase, Lin's nineties jukebox musical that lives in the hearts of millennials and Gen Xers everywhere.
This episode was recorded in November of 2025 at WTF Media Studios in Manhattan and produced with Natalie Grillo from Any Moment Productions in collaboration with Meghan Miles.
Lin-Manuel Miranda: The Education of an Artist by Daniel Pollack-Pelzner
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#88: Lin-Manuel Miranda // Part One (2017)
#89: Lin-Manuel Miranda // Part Two (2017)
#90: Lin-Manuel Miranda // Part Three (2017)
#91: Lin-Manuel Miranda // Part Four // The B-Sides (2017)
#92: Lin-Manuel Miranda // Part Five // The B-Sides (2017)
#225: Lin-Manuel Miranda Returns! // Part One (2020)
#226: Lin-Manuel Miranda Returns! // Part Two (2020)
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Stage in Stages, Lynn Manuel Miranda, and you're listening to The Hamelcast. |
| 0:05.1 | Boots and cuts and poots and cuts. |
| 0:07.1 | Hi. |
| 0:23.4 | Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the Hamelcast. I'm Jillian, and I'm here with Lynn Manuel Miranda. Hi. |
| 0:32.2 | Hi. Welcome back. Thank you. Good to be here. Good to be back in person. Oh, I know. So the first time you were on the show, I have all my notes here, originally aired in 2017. |
| 1:12.4 | Episodes, 88, 89, and 90, plus two B-sides that I did with Mike, because it was surreal and crazy. So we did like recaps. The cocktail was the spark into a flame, which was a fancy nutcracker, which we recreated. Amazing. Round two originally aired in 2020. That was virtual. It was. Everything was. Everything was. That's very true. 225 and 226, the cocktail was Hamletfilm Sit Down. And it was like a green thing. I must have given you the recipe or something. Yeah, probably. Something like that. But welcome back for your third and final installment. I mean, for now. And your final installment. I know. I'm honored. Thank you so much. I'm honored. How are you? Happy Hamilton. Thanks. Happy Hamilton. Yeah. At the time of this recording, I've just fulfilled my final Hamilton duty, which was to announce that we've signed a deal with Concord Theatricals |
| 1:19.3 | to create a teen edition of Hamilton. Not Hamilton Jr., a Hamilton teen. Yeah, that's just what this |
| 1:24.6 | company calls it, but yeah, it's Hamilton Teen. And I don't know what that looks like yet. We have a couple of years to figure it out. You know, tomorrow there'll be more of us if you like our show. If you hate our show, this is the moment where the prana clippings go out into the world and take it over. Everyone's growing like, oh, everyone's doing Hamilton. Now it's gonna be at school. Yeah, exactly. |
| 1:45.0 | But I was thinking like, it seems, it's teen friendly anyway. |
| 1:49.0 | So what is, I guess like for time. |
| 1:50.0 | For time? |
| 1:51.0 | Yeah, not content. |
| 1:52.0 | Yeah, no, not content. |
| 1:53.0 | I think, you know, listen, I went to a school and we, I mean, I've talked on this podcast about how I fell in love with doing theater by doing |
| 2:04.4 | the school play. So I'm just really excited to figure out the school play. But yeah, no, the content |
| 2:09.0 | is the kids all know it anyway. Well, there's that. And yeah, and then I think we figure out |
| 2:14.4 | an addition that, you know that works within a school period. |
| 2:17.5 | That's really exciting. |
| 2:18.5 | Yeah. |
| 2:19.5 | That's so fun. But it's been like Hamilton, but not for you, it's Hamel 16. For me, it's Hamel 16. Something like that, right? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah. So it's been like years and years in the making. I know that there were things that you guys were going to do. Yeah, 10 in the world. On Broadway, though, because even before that, it was at the world. |
| 2:33.8 | Yeah. |
| 2:34.0 | And I know it's the end of Hamilton because my son just turned 11. And that's how I measure Hamletime. How do you measure? Stop. Hamilton. That's how I measure Hamletime because, yeah, two weeks before rehearsals started, my life changed. Yeah. Oh, my God. I've been talking to so many people, just over the years, but especially you guys in the cabinet. Like there are people who fell in, |
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